F1 2021: New season discussion and chat

[deesef]

Max basically planted his car in the middle of the track just prior to where the track widens and drops anchor with moving under breaking. Stewards got this one right for a change imho. As for Max and his lunge-defending in corners - sooner or later it’s going to result in a major incident.

Yeah - like he did at Silverstone...

 

[Archer]

Decent analysis as always
Let's see if all you adults can manage to take away the good and the bad points of your preferred driver. My take away, we wanted a close fought championship and by the power of Greyskull we've got it. I think many of us have simply forgotten how motivated these people are to win having being subjected to the yawn fest Mercedes dominance. But this this whole season what we've seen is each of these drivers not giving an inch.

VER has done full sends late on the brakes on the inside and outside in the second half of the season with an arguably inferior car, HAM has done the same in the first half with an arguably inferior car, they've both pushed each other off, bla bla yada yada etc. It's all swings and roundabouts and nobody is a saint.

 

[Dave]

Decent analysis as always
Let's see if all you adults can manage to take away the good and the bad points of your preferred driver. My take away, we wanted a close fought championship and by the power of Greyskull we've got it. I think many of us have simply forgotten how motivated these people are to win having being subjected to the yawn fest Mercedes dominance. But this this whole season what we've seen is each of these drivers not giving an inch.

VER has done full sends late on the brakes on the inside and outside in the second half of the season with an arguably inferior car, HAM has done the same in the first half with an arguably inferior car, they've both pushed each other off, bla bla yada yada etc. It's all swings and roundabouts and nobody is a saint.

Pretty good summation there.

 

[Hamster]

Only in the Netherlands will you have an F1 show discussing recent events, showing telemetry, going fairly in depth into stuff etc. all whilst smoking a giant hookah you know - this being the Netherlands - is loaded with the good stuff.

I mean the guy is waving the smoke away on television while passing the pipe to the other guy.

This now in front of a live audience all wearing masks because COVID.

 

[Willie Trombone]

Max basically planted his car in the middle of the track just prior to where the track widens and drops anchor with moving under breaking. Stewards got this one right for a change imho. As for Max and his lunge-defending in corners - sooner or later it’s going to result in a major incident.

It's the third in about two or three races.

 

[JohnStarr]

I've seen these guys do bumper to bumper racing with crashes happening right in front of them and managing to avoid it. Lewis pulls up behind a "crazed reckless Crashtappen" and suddenly cannot avoid him.

The 2.4G number is nothing special. They experience 2G during acceleration, 5G during braking and up to 6G in corners.

So put the Max tapping the brake which is wrong thing aside, how in the double **** does the apparent best driver in the world not avoid him?

...and 51G if punted into a barrier...

 

[Craig_]

Sometimes I wonder why it's worth the hassle posting factual reports when people parrot on the same idiotic nonsense that's been rebutted pages ages ago...

Shows you the level of bias on here, but they're fine calling other people out on bias while being worse themselves.

 

[Craig_]

Max basically planted his car in the middle of the track just prior to where the track widens and drops anchor with moving under breaking. Stewards got this one right for a change imho. As for Max and his lunge-defending in corners - sooner or later it’s going to result in a major incident.

It's just a matter of time being he injures someone badly, let's hope it's not this coming weekend.

 

[JohnStarr]

It's just a matter of time being he injures someone badly, let's hope it's not this coming weekend.

How about rather: Let's hope it's never on any race weekend...

 

[Naks]

 

[JohnStarr]

The interviewers must relish times like these when the 2 drivers involved in an incident are sitting within 2m of each other!

 

[Hamster]

At 4:29 when you see Bottas has been there the whole time

So Max is fidgeting and rambling like I used to do when I was interrogated by my mother and I knew I was in big trouble. "But let's move on"...

And did I understand Lewis correctly that he assumed Max was giving the position back and the DRS zones came into play? "But I don't know what's happening" lying little biatch.

 

[Naks]

Brundle's take: https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/1...-what-a-title-showdown-well-have-in-abu-dhabi

"... Max slowed and initially gave space in the curvy run down to the T27 hairpin. Lewis hadn't yet been informed but he must have been expecting something as his story of 'I didn't know what was happening so I didn't pass him' doesn't add up because if Max had technical issues and was dropping out of the race, Lewis would have normally just sailed past. He instinctively smelt tactics and danger.

I believe Max initially made a genuine effort to let Lewis through but when he realised that they were both planning to be second over the impending DRS detection line to gain advantage down the pit straight, and with Lewis now on his rear bumper, he angrily hit the brakes at 69 bar momentarily generating 2.4G deceleration, nearly half that normally generated into a heavy braking zone for a high speed approach to a hairpin, and then pinned the throttle. ..."

 

[Archer]

Shows you the level of bias on here, but they're fine calling other people out on bias while being worse themselves.

What's that saying about pots and kettles? You're honestly right up there with the worst of them

 

[BadBoyGP]

Brundle's take: https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/1...-what-a-title-showdown-well-have-in-abu-dhabi

"... Max slowed and initially gave space in the curvy run down to the T27 hairpin. Lewis hadn't yet been informed but he must have been expecting something as his story of 'I didn't know what was happening so I didn't pass him' doesn't add up because if Max had technical issues and was dropping out of the race, Lewis would have normally just sailed past. He instinctively smelt tactics and danger.

I believe Max initially made a genuine effort to let Lewis through but when he realised that they were both planning to be second over the impending DRS detection line to gain advantage down the pit straight, and with Lewis now on his rear bumper, he angrily hit the brakes at 69 bar momentarily generating 2.4G deceleration, nearly half that normally generated into a heavy braking zone for a high speed approach to a hairpin, and then pinned the throttle. ..."

At that speed, I highly doubt he will be able to generate that much g while braking.

Impo

 

[UrBaN963]

At that speed, I highly doubt he will be able to generate that much g while braking.

Impo

Citation please.

 

[thestaggy]

Trying to give the position back…

View attachment 1208184

Lol. Watch the video?

From 0:04 you can hear Lewis backing out.

Now I know the Ham fans do not want to acknowledge this; this is a flatout piece of track, ff Lewis wasn't playing his part in the cat-and-mouse DRS game, he could've pulled out.

 

[Hamster]

At that speed, I highly doubt he will be able to generate that much g while braking.

Impo

All you need to confirm this is basic high school math, the speed and time delta and the knowledge that 1km/h is roughly the length of a school ruler per second (ie. 200km/h * 0.278 = 55.6m/s2)

And off you go

 

[quovadis]

From 0:04 you can hear Lewis backing out.

Now I know the Ham fans do not want to acknowledge this; this is a flatout piece of track, ff Lewis wasn't playing his part in the cat-and-mouse DRS game, he could've pulled out.

Sure he could've but there still was no reason for Max to break like that especially since he was well aware where Lewis was - It's not racing.

 

[dj2381]

Lol. Watch the video?

From 0:04 you can hear Lewis backing out.

Now I know the Ham fans do not want to acknowledge this; this is a flatout piece of track, ff Lewis wasn't playing his part in the cat-and-mouse DRS game, he could've pulled out.

I don't know how he can claim he didn't know they were giving the place back, he's clearly slowing down so verstappen won't use the DRS to get past him again, he's talking k@k.