F1 2021: New season discussion and chat

[ScottulusMaximus]

BRAKE

FFS

 

[Dave]

Before a "break check" which didnt happen.

Other than the one the stewards saw in the telemetry, you mean?

 

[JohnStarr]

All these Lewis fanboys.
All over the internet.
Posting a still image of him not racing.
Out of context too, in the age of HD video.
Before a "break check" which didnt happen.
Maybe Max should just punt him into a wall.
And say "He didnt give me any room, man"
Small trip to the hospital, never hurt Max, shouldnt hurt Lew.

You type all of your comments like a poem or a haiku, but I cannot see the rhyme nor are there 5/7/5 syllables in 3 lines

 

[Defonotaltaccount]

Other than the one the stewards saw in the telemetry, you mean?

They saw a breaking move, not the fabled brake check.
One has intent and to date none has been shown.

 

[Defonotaltaccount]

You type all of your comments like a poem or a haiku, but I cannot see the rhyme nor are there 5/7/5 syllables in 3 lines

I blame the constant nazification of grammar on this site.
If one doesnt have a rebuttal.
Then its "lol look at his missing commas or make paragraph man."
Kind of an avoidance tactic.
So im better than LH at the moment with avoidance.

 

[thestaggy]

Sound logic demanding Hamilton should overtake to avoid being brake-checked. Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda. What's next @ Abu Dhabi 2021 - Max saying he wouldn't have taken Lewis out if Lewis had've overtaken him?

Edit: Brake demmit

Eish. He followed the dude for 5 seconds BEFORE Max applied heavier braking. Watch the video and listen. Lewis is shifting down himself. What potato tucks up behind a slowing car and then acts stunned when it goes bad?

The stewards literally said Max was reducing speed consistently before he wasn't. The stewards literally said Lewis had ample opportunity to overtake but like Max, he was playing a stupid game with DRS.

 

[Willie Trombone]

Eish. He followed the dude for 5 seconds BEFORE Max applied heavy braking. Watch the video and listen. Lewis is shifting down himself. What potato tucks up behind a slowing car and then acts stunned when it goes bad?

The stewards literally said Max was reducing speed consistently before he wasn't. The stewards literally said Lewis had ample opportunity to overtake but like Max, he was playing a stupid game with DRS.

So question for you - if someone is told to cede the position, who gets to decide where it is ceded? Does the person he is ceding to have to even overtake? What happens if he doesn't (at least not at that point)?

Just because you have decided to slow down doesn't give you the right to behave erratically and stamp on the brakes when someone is behind you.
Max wanted Lewis to take the position then and there, it's not for him to decide when Lewis does take it.

 

[Dave]

They saw a breaking move, not the fabled brake check.
One has intent and to date none has been shown.

No, they said he braked excessively, that's the basic definition of a brake check. Have you just jumped into the thread today without having bothered to read yesterday's posts?

Let me just quote myself for brevity

Sometimes I wonder why it's worth the hassle posting factual reports when people parrot on the same idiotic nonsense that's been rebutted pages ages ago...

In deciding to penalise the driver of Car 33, the key point for the Stewards was that the driver of Car 33 then braked suddenly (69 bar) and significantly, resulting in 2.4g deceleration.

However, the sudden braking by the driver of Car 33 was determined by the Stewards to be erratic and hence the predominant cause of the collision and hence the standard penalty of 10 seconds for this type of incident, is imposed.

 

[Willie Trombone]

Verstappen: Penalised Saudi Arabian GP move "was fine in Brazil"

Max Verstappen feels a penalty for running Lewis Hamilton off the track in Saudi Arabia was 'unfair' after not being sanctioned for a similar Formula 1 incident in Brazil.

www.autosport.com

Max Verstappen feels a penalty for running Lewis Hamilton off the track in Saudi Arabia was "unfair" after not being sanctioned for a similar Formula 1 incident in Brazil.​

And that's exactly the issue with being economical with the application of the rules in the first place. Let's hope Massi learns.

 

[Speedster]

No, they said he braked excessively, that's the basic definition of a brake check. Have you just jumped into the thread today without having bothered to read yesterday's posts?

Let me just quote myself for brevity

Yeah, after slowing down to give back the position and Lewis refusing to take it and instead crawling up his ass Max hit the brakes for a moment to get him to back off and then sped away. They were both playing games and trying to point fingers is a fruitless exercise. I do think it's wrong that he got punished for not giving the position back when Lewis didn't want to take it back though.

 

[Willie Trombone]

Max hit the brakes for a moment to get him to back off and then sped away.

So you think that's OK to do? Erratic driving and driving in a way that is potentially dangerous to other drivers is not allowed. He pushed the boundaries one time too many.
That's exactly what he was penalised for.

 

[Defonotaltaccount]

No, they said he braked excessively, that's the basic definition of a brake check. Have you just jumped into the thread today without having bothered to read yesterday's posts?

Let me just quote myself for brevity

A brake check, also known as a brake test, occurs when a driver deliberately either taps on the brakes several times or slams hard on the pedal when moving in front of another vehicle, with the intention of causing the behind driver to either collide or take evasive action.[1] The term is often applied in the context of auto racing,[1]


Braked excessively..............
Slow enough for Hambore to spot the "tactic" and adjust.
Intent is still not shown.
Cant bend it now.

 

[Dave]

A brake check, also known as a brake test, occurs when a driver deliberately either taps on the brakes several times or slams hard on the pedal when moving in front of another vehicle, with the intention of causing the behind driver to either collide or take evasive action.[1] The term is often applied in the context of auto racing,[1]


Braked excessively..............
Slow enough for Hambore to spot the "tactic" and adjust.
Intent is still not shown.
Cant bend it now.

A brake check, also known as a brake test, occurs when a driver deliberately either taps on the brakes several times or slams hard on the pedal when moving in front of another vehicle, with the intention of causing the behind driver to either collide or take evasive action.

Yep, perfectly describes what happened.

 

[Speedster]

So you think that's OK to do? Erratic driving and driving in a way that is potentially dangerous to other drivers is not allowed. He pushed the boundaries one time too many.
That's exactly what he was penalised for.

That's ALSO what he was penalised for. There were two penalties. And no, I don't think slamming the brakes when a guy is crawling up your ass is acceptable (although tbh I might have done so myself on the freeway before).

 

[Willie Trombone]

Expect to see a rule amendment after this incident. Another reason DRS should be canned.

 

[Dave]

That's ALSO what he was penalised for. There were two penalties. And no, I don't think slamming the brakes when a guy is crawling up your ass is acceptable (although tbh I might have done so myself on the freeway before).

And if the car behind had a dash cam or there were witnesses and the car behind hit you and it caused injuries or death you'd likely have been charged with culpable homicide or reckless and/or negligent driving. It's not ok on the road or the track.

 

[Defonotaltaccount]

A brake check, also known as a brake test, occurs when a driver deliberately either taps on the brakes several times or slams hard on the pedal when moving in front of another vehicle, with the intention of causing the behind driver to either collide or take evasive action.

Yep, perfectly describes what happened.

Still no intent shown.
Guess it was just a braking move then.

 

[Willie Trombone]

That's ALSO what he was penalised for. There were two penalties. And no, I don't think slamming the brakes when a guy is crawling up your ass is acceptable (although tbh I might have done so myself on the freeway before).

Sure, I thought that's what you were discussing.
LOL at the freeway. I used to do that until my wife objected... now I just slow down gradually until we're both doing 20kph. If he can't overtake at that speed, he shouldn't be driving up my rear. I'm seldom in a rush as many an impatient butt creeper has found.

 

[Dave]

Expect to see a rule amendment after this incident. Another reason DRS should be canned.

Or maybe just make it that the overtaken car loses DRS for two laps.

 

[Dave]

Still no intent shown.

So now you profess to be able to read minds?