F1 - General discussion and 2016 Season

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What happened to the SA drivers Thomas Scheckter and that used to drive A1.

Gone with the wind ?

Scheckter's career has come to an end as far as I know. Last I saw of him (late 00s) he was getting the occasional ride in the IRL/Indy Car series but wasn't any good anymore. As for Zaugg, I've no idea. Money is a big problem for SA drivers and riders. Alan van der Merwe burnt his sponsorship money up before he finished his lone F3000 season and had to give his ride up.
 
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Ok the 1 car is a Lotus 72 driven by Dave Charlton and the 3 car is a Tyrrel ford driven by Eddie Keizan back in 1973,both drivers raced in the 1973 SA GP at Kyalami.The top pic of course was Jacky Stewart in the Tyrrel as previously mentioned.

Dave Charlton, John love, Ian Scheckter along with Jacky Stewart were my boyhood heroes. We used to watch a highlights package of the various GP's every Saturday Afternoon at the local cinema and on Race weekends the papers were full of pics hence the scrapbook.:)
 

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Ok the 1 car is a Lotus 72 driven by Dave Charlton and the 3 car is a Tyrrel ford driven by Eddie Keizan back in 1973,both drivers raced in the 1973 SA GP at Kyalami.The top pic of course was Jacky Stewart in the Tyrrel as previously mentioned.

Dave Charlton, John love, Ian Scheckter along with Jacky Stewart were my boyhood heroes. We used to watch a highlights package of the various GP's every Saturday Afternoon at the local cinema and on Race weekends the papers were full of pics hence the scrapbook.:)

Ah, thanks for that.

Who used to drive the Gunston car(s)? Can't recall off hand. And the Uniwinkels (I think) car. This was probably around the mid-70s.

Ian Scheckter was frequently in a Lexington car now that I think about it, not Lucky Strike.
 

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EPIC!

I just found my answers, Chromedome. What a fantastic site this is! My motor racing annuals relate to the '76 and '77 seasons. http://www.oldracingcars.com/atlantic/south-africa/

Uniewinkels car turns out to be John Gibb's March 77B. Gunston car I am thinking of was that of Roy Klomfass.

EDIT 1: F1 driver Rupert Keegan also came out and raced a few rounds in the Uniewinkels car.

March77B-KeeganRoyHesketh1977-600x300.jpg


EDIT 2: Actually a few big names came out here. I'm sure a then little known Gilles Villeneuve entered a race or two in '77.
 
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Planning ahead - exclusive Eric Boullier interview

One thing is certain about McLaren’s 2015 car: it will be powered by Honda. As to who will drive it, that’s another story. Despite some strong performances from the team’s current mix of youth and experience - Kevin Magnussen and Jenson Button - neither driver has been confirmed for next season.

With rumours swirling of a Fernando Alonso return, we caught up with team principal Eric Boullier to discuss driver plans, development cars, and the team’s continued renaissance in Russia…

Q: Eric, all the talk is of Fernando Alonso returning to McLaren? When will your 2015 drivers be announced?
Eric Boullier: There is still no decision yet.

Q: But you must have a clear vision of what kind of driver McLaren needs in 2015? What would make you happy?
EB: I will not tell you much about this - just this much: we need a mix of experience and eagerness. In this time of recovery for McLaren I need a boost, so our driver line-up needs to be boosting the team’s morale and team’s determination to reach as quickly as possible the level where we should be.

Q: What are the benefits of hiring a big name for next season versus those of staying low key in 2015 and then making a big splash in 2016 when the Honda ‘transition year’ is over?
EB: I always said that we are working on the strategy for the coming years - plural - which means we could take on a big name now, or even two big names for next year, or we could stay the same and go for a big name - or again two big names - for 2016. We are still assessing what we should do, as it is a big decision that will obviously be driving our success for the medium term. If we take the wrong decision we could be successful in the short term but maybe not in the long term. And we are in the comfortable position of being able to wait. I know that doesn’t make it comfortable for Jenson (Button) and Kevin (Magnussen), but I have to think about McLaren first. We have to make sure we make the right decision.

Q: If you say that you could even go for two big names in 2015, that would mean Fernando and Jenson - no other big names are on the market…
EB: Ha! Yes, we have to see who is on the market in 2015, but also who would be available in 2016 - maybe quite different names would come up then!

Q: But isn’t that not just a question of what you want to do, but when you want to do it?
EB: I am asking myself that question almost daily. It is comfortable to say, ‘Let’s keep the same driver line-up another year and let’s see what our new engine partner will bring and how it works.’ I am a racer - and (McLaren Chairman and CEO) Ron (Dennis) is as well - so of course we both want to apply the maximum pressure everywhere. So let’s assume we will have a big name next year - or two big names - but do we have the right technical team behind them, the right leadership? Is everything in place? Can we make sure that everything is in place in six months? It’s like Russian roulette: you only have one shot! If you bring the big name now and are not ready enough then you start to deliver too late and burn his determination - then what? So what we actually need is a massive boost for the whole system, and if we miss the momentum we will kill everything.

Q: What are Honda expecting from you?
EB: To do more than our best I guess - and vice versa. What we first expect is to have this massive benefit of a works team relationship.

Q: Can one really imagine a driver as experienced as Jenson suddenly finding himself without a drive?
EB: That is a question for Jenson’s management. My job is to make McLaren win.

Q: You just said that it is not only a question of drivers, but also of team leadership. Will there be changes over the winter?
EB: Before the winter. Winter should be the beginning of the period of stability.

Q: At the end of August, Honda said that they will run the car and power unit together for the first time at Jerez at the beginning of February 2015. Now we hear that there might be a ‘development car’ before that…
EB: To make sure that we are ready at the launch of the new cars in 2015 we’ve decided to build a development car, as Honda needs to check all the multiple systems. We also need to check the IT link between track and Woking and between track and Japan. So as not to have to focus on these things too much in the test season, we’ve decided to run a development car programme.

Q: What will be the difference between this development car and the one you are running right now?
EB: In terms of car design it will be very similar to this one. We don’t want to burn money on unnecessary areas. We just have to make sure that some technical options for next year are already on the car.

Q: When and where will you run it?
EB: Whenever things are ready we will run. We never said that it will be Abu Dhabi or Jerez.

Q: But is it likely you will run the Honda engine in the two Abu Dhabi test days at the end of the season?
EB: Yes. When it’s ready, of course. We will take the decision in a few weeks.

Q: Sochi was new for everybody. And McLaren were one of the teams that got it right…
EB: It was a combination of things: the track and tarmac suited us, and the upgrades that we brought to Singapore and which didn’t work there, but which we then modified for Japan and worked there… and with more development on these upgrades we finally made them work last weekend. We also expect to do well in Austin.

Q: After last weekend McLaren now sit fifth in the table…
EB: But believe me, that is not my dream result. P5 for me is no target!

www.formula1.com

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F1 2013 split of prize money

Formula 1 Prize Money Awarded To Teams in 2013:

Out of $1.5 billion there was around $700 million was distributed among f1 teams. 2.5% of $700m goes to ferrari as they have brokered a deal with formula 1. So Ferrari will get $17.5 million automaticaly and leaving $682.5 which is divided into two categories.

Category 1 Payments (the equal share) – $341.25 million
In the first category we have 50% of the total prize money fund which is around $341.25 million and this is divided equaly between the top 10 teams.

Category 2 Payments (merit money) - $341.25 million
rest of the 50% is divided among top 10 teams according to where they finish in the championship table. So according to 2013 team championship table this is how the money was awarded to all F1 teams.

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Williams and Force India (Especially Force India) are punching well above their weight and Lotus's financial predicament will be dire next season. It is already shaky and now the terrible season they've endured. . .

Considering how well both FI and Williams have done this year, next year should technically be even better. They're retaining drivers, both retaining awesome Merc power plants and now have extra cash for development.
 

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Considering how well both FI and Williams have done this year, next year should technically be even better. They're retaining drivers, both retaining awesome Merc power plants and now have extra cash for development.

Force India have actually built a rep for ''doing things on the cheap'' for years now and are regularly among or around the top-5 teams.

I don't see either greatly increasing their budgets. They are both firmly customer teams, with Force India more so. Force India don't even have their own wind tunnel and rely mostly on technical agreements with third parties and do very little in-house engineering on their own. Marussia follow a very similar path.
 

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I just found my answers, Chromedome. What a fantastic site this is! My motor racing annuals relate to the '76 and '77 seasons. http://www.oldracingcars.com/atlantic/south-africa/

Uniewinkels car turns out to be John Gibb's March 77B. Gunston car I am thinking of was that of Roy Klomfass.

EDIT 1: F1 driver Rupert Keegan also came out and raced a few rounds in the Uniewinkels car.

March77B-KeeganRoyHesketh1977-600x300.jpg


EDIT 2: Actually a few big names came out here. I'm sure a then little known Gilles Villeneuve entered a race or two in '77.

Nice! Brings back memories.
 

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Montezemolo confirms Alonso will leave Ferrari

Fernando Alonso will be leaving Ferrari at the end of 2014, outgoing president Luca di Montezemolo has confirmed.

Though it has been widely known for some time that Alonso's future will be away from Maranello, the move has not been confirmed by the Spaniard or Ferrari. Alonso is believed to be eyeing a seat at McLaren next season, though there is also talk he could take a sabbatical with a 2016 Mercedes seat in mind.

Di Montezemolo was officially replaced as Ferrari president this week by Fiat chief executive Sergio Marchionne but confirmed the news on a television show looking back at his 23 years at the helm.

"Fernando is leaving for two reasons," Di Montezemolo told RAI 1TV. "One, he wants another environment. Two, because he is an age when he cannot wait to win again."

Since joining Ferrari, Alonso, 33, has failed to add to the world titles he won in 2005 and 2006; he lost out to Sebastian Vettel at the final race of the season in 2010 and 2012, and was also runner-up to the German last year.

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Ok, so even if FA himself has not yet admitted it, everyone else is.
 

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Gilles Villeneuve did indeed compete in 4 races during the 1977 South African Formula Atlantic Championship. He came over and raced a works Chevron which was maintained by fellow works Chevron driver Tony Martin. The below pic, whic is watermarked so it isn't too clear, is apparently Gilles in a Chevron at Kyalami.

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He competed in the first 4 rounds of the '77 season.

Round 1 (Roy Hesketh) - Started 10th and last after not setting a time and finished 3rd.
Round 2 (Kyalami) - Qualified 2nd and finished 5th.
Round 3 (Welkom) - Qualified 5th and retired with battery issues.
Round 4 (Killarney) - Qualified 4th and retired after being involved in a vicious accident. He plowed into Ian Scheckter who had spun while trying to lap someone else. I have a frame-by-frame account of this in my racing annual. He completely destroyed the car and only the tub was salvaged and sent back to England. Chevron didn't replace Gilles or the chassis, so they finished the season with Martin as the lone works driver.

I wish we still had a racing series like this. High profile international drivers and chassis manufacturers running works teams.
 
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Engineering Tolerances and What Happens when You Exceed Them

Scuderia Toro Rosso’s Sebastien Buemi lost both front wheels during practice for the Shanghai GP in 2010 due to a catastrophic failure of his front suspension.
The nearside upright shears first under heavy braking, causing massive stress on the opposite side. Milliseconds later the offside gives up all pretence at being an upright and surrenders faster than an Italian tank division, slamming Bueni into the Armco.
The problem was apparently caused by the team trying out a new, lighter pair of uprights. It’s always tempting to try and save some weight but it looks like someone forgot to factor in the G-forces experienced under braking and the massive centrifugal force from the wheels (you can see just how much energy they have by the way they fly off, accelerate and nearly wipe out a marshal).

[video=youtube;_5PfrikvQ7M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5PfrikvQ7M[/video]

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F1 Engines

The engines in a modern F1 car are one of the most complex and intricate pieces of engineering that you’ll ever come across. You don’t believe me? Well, consider the following:
They rev to over 18,000 revolutions per minute, with each piston accelerating to a peak of more than 7,000Gs and rising and falling 300 times per second.
The tolerances are so fine that the engine cannot be turned over when it’s cold. Warm oil and water need to be pumped through them to let the metals expand just a little, allowing them to rotate.
At full pelt the fuel pump delivers fuel at a greater rate than your domestic tap does water.
200 channels of data from over 150 sensors will generate 25Gbs of data per race, all of which is transmitted to the pits via telemetry in real time.

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G-forces and the Driver’s Neck

One G (or gravitational) is equal to your normal weight, 2G is twice, and so on. Remember the, er, ‘larger’ lady that you pulled that night, the one who weighed the same as you do? Well, imagine her lying on top of you – it would take twice the normal effort to get up with her weight on top of yours, wouldn’t it?
Well, it’s the same with G-force. If a racing driver experiences 2G his head will feel twice as heavy as it normally does. Three G is three times, and so on.
During an F1 race a driver will experience up to 5G under braking and cornering (the car can go from its top speed of 300km/h+ to a standstill in 3 seconds) and 3G under hard acceleration, meaning that his neck has to support up to 24kgs during a long corner. That’s the equivalent of having a sack of spuds slammed into the side of your head while you’re driving.
This means that developing the neck muscles is a priority for every driver and they might spend one and a half hours or more at a time working on it; they all have disproportionately thick necks compared to the rest of their body as a result.
And every time your body experiences high G-force – and this could be as high as 5G – it screams out for you to do everything that you can to stop it. But that’s not an option, because if you unwind the steering even a fraction then you’ll be going home in a coffin after hitting the wall at up to 200mph.

[video=youtube;EMloWN-AZcw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMloWN-AZcw[/video]

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The Gearbox

The gearbox from the 2008 BMW Sauber F1 car takes around 40 working hours to assemble using 1,500 different components, choosing from over 50 different gear ratios to suit each individual circuit.
They can change gear 50 times faster than you can blink, and the driver will shift ratios between 2,800 and 4,000 times per race.

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