F1 - General discussion and 2016 Season

[Neoprod]

Was a rather humdrum affair. Some of the radio transmissions were more fun than the actual racing.

 

[Willie Trombone]

Was a rather humdrum affair. Some of the radio transmissions were more fun than the actual racing.

MV: "I'm not here to come fourth!"

 

[sand_man]

Was a rather humdrum affair. Some of the radio transmissions were more fun than the actual racing.

Snoozefest of note... Highlight for me was watching Gerard Butler drink Redbull out of Daniels boot!!

 

[Neoprod]

MV: "I'm not here to come fourth!"

Explains the DNF...well-played, Max...well-played.

Palmer in the Renault after following his teammate around for most of the race was not impressed either.

 

[Neoprod]

Snoozefest of note... Highlight for me was watching Gerard Butler drink Redbull out of Daniels boot!!

That was hilarious...Butler turns to Hamilton and asks something and Hamilton is like not me, man. That's messed up though...guy comes up to do an interview thing and ends up drinking Red Bull out of a sweaty shoe...if it wasn't for the crowd watching, no one would be doing that.

 

[sand_man]

:crylaugh: Peer group pressure....

 

[thestaggy]

Alonso still has it. I hope he gets a competitive car soon though as drivers can ''lose it'' overnight.

 

[Willie Trombone]

Alonso has it in bucketloads but he's not likely to get a winning car before he retires. Lately it seems everyone is off the boil except for Merc. Next year? Not sure, but you can be sure Merc have a leg up regardless.

 

[Willie Trombone]

Explains the DNF...well-played, Max...well-played.

Palmer in the Renault after following his teammate around for most of the race was not impressed either.

I'd watch him trying to win over dutifully keeping pace behind the Merc anyday. That was about the only major interest in the race was the bit of stick the Bulls gave.

 

[Willie Trombone]

In my perfect world, Hamilton wins the next three and in one of the three, Rosberg is beaten by the two bulls. A points tie in the last race with one more first place by Hamilton would do nicely ta!

 

[Zyraz]

Ted`s Race notebook

[video=youtube;U8ofOjIgBWU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ofOjIgBWU[/video]

 

[caroper]

Try this copy rather:

[video=youtube;c0nLglwUpi4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0nLglwUpi4[/video]

 

[Polish]

Rosberg could clinch title in Mexico, if he wins and Lewis finishes 10th or lower.

Imagine.

Weather forecast for Sunday scattered showers, 50% chance.

 

[thestaggy]

How the Managing Director of Renault's F1 Team Wants to Radically Change the Sport

Maybe we need to go towards shorter races. Maybe we need to have visual elements on the cars that are really impressive. I don't know if you know the old video game, Wipeout—maybe that should be the vision of Formula 1. I'm exaggerating, but not that much. It's full of light, it's full of color, it's full of different types of noises. Sometimes you have a booster, but then it's like Mario Kart, and you don't want to go in that direction. Although, we already go a little bit in that direction. But in my opinion, we are a bit too shy, we don't do it in the right way. What I mean is, if you look at the importance of tire management, it's absolutely crazy. It's important to have the tires create some excitement, create some show, create overtaking opportunities and gradient of speed. But there could be a different way to do that, through management of energy, for instance, and that could be much more exciting. And if we really push that we could have a very big gradient of speed that would make overtaking maneuvers just fantastic. I think there are some things intrinsic to motorsports that we cannot alter, but there are an awful lot of things we can do in order to match the expectation of people who are used to sports that are constantly pushing the boundaries.

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I fully agree that's an option. In a couple of years we will be surrounded by autonomous driving, so our experience with cars will be completely the same. All cars will have the same technology. So when we are watching Formula 1, we will be wanting to see something completely different. Why not low tech? Or we have to go to the other extreme, which is massively high-tech, but again, a high-tech that is visible from the outside.

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That's why your point about low tech is a very good one. Maybe we will need a Formula 1 that is completely different from our experience with cars, because cars will be completely different. So maybe that's the vision of Formula 1, interestingly. But I would say that's a bit of a bullish idea right now because right now the model is based on financial support from all these tech companies.

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Yeah, absolutely. They should sort out their issues themselves—including on the track. I think we should have a governing body that is less quick to interfere. It also means having the capacity to have drivers who are maybe a bit older. Maybe our junior series, feeder series, should be a bit longer. Because it's true, when you take a driver at 17 years old, he doesn't have an awful lot of things to say—his life has been fairly short up to that point. I think that, in general, our drivers are too young. If you compare to the drivers in American motorsports, those guys are grown men. Think about Senna, Prost. That's missing. We just signed a driver who is 29 years old [Ed. note: Nico Hulkenberg], and a number of people have made the observation that maybe he is too old for the job. Frankly, that's bull****, if you'll excuse my French. He has the perfect balance of experience, he's very capable. Look at one of the most exciting drivers on the grid, Fernando Alonso. He's 35, he's a grown man, and he's very exciting. He's the type of person that you would want to have dinner with. That's what we need.

Some of his ideas are out there, but there are a lot of truths. In my opinion F1 needs to take a step back on the tech front, drivers need to grow up (not just in terms of years, but mentally) and the sport needs to be policed less heavily than it currently is. For example; the penalty Rosberg received for his pass on Raikkonen and the tears about Alonso barging past Massa are exactly what this sport doesn't need. You want excitement yet the minute a driver does something using his own raw ability it is investigated. I'm all for ensuring a driver doesn't cause accidents, but if a rough pass is made and nobody crashes let it go.

 

[Polish]

Indeed some very interesting points.

I actually really enjoyed reading this whole article.

 

[chromedome]

Some of his ideas are out there, but there are a lot of truths. In my opinion F1 needs to take a step back on the tech front, drivers need to grow up (not just in terms of years, but mentally) and the sport needs to be policed less heavily than it currently is. For example; the penalty Rosberg received for his pass on Raikkonen and the tears about Alonso barging past Massa are exactly what this sport doesn't need. You want excitement yet the minute a driver does something using his own raw ability it is investigated. I'm all for ensuring a driver doesn't cause accidents, but if a rough pass is made and nobody crashes let it go.

Could not agree more.

 

[Polish]

Could not agree more.

/nods

 

[caroper]

[video=youtube_share;iCZOWQgtRok]https://youtu.be/iCZOWQgtRok[/video]

With all the talk of Ron Denise leaving McLaren and who will take over as team principal adds a new twist to the Jenson Button contract.
Just my thoughts, I have not heard any pundits linking the two.

 

[rsifan]

Some of his ideas are out there, but there are a lot of truths. In my opinion F1 needs to take a step back on the tech front, drivers need to grow up (not just in terms of years, but mentally) and the sport needs to be policed less heavily than it currently is. For example; the penalty Rosberg received for his pass on Raikkonen and the tears about Alonso barging past Massa are exactly what this sport doesn't need. You want excitement yet the minute a driver does something using his own raw ability it is investigated. I'm all for ensuring a driver doesn't cause accidents, but if a rough pass is made and nobody crashes let it go.

Totally agree with your comment!

Would love to see more of those types of moves (Rosberg on Kimi, Alonso on Massa), and definitely a stop to the cry baby radio comms surrounding blue flags, the 'yeehaa' from Alonso was quite refreshing from the usual 'Blue flags, blue flags, blue flags' of Seb (who I am a fan of to some extent).

 

[Willie Trombone]

Some of his ideas are out there, but there are a lot of truths. In my opinion F1 needs to take a step back on the tech front, drivers need to grow up (not just in terms of years, but mentally) and the sport needs to be policed less heavily than it currently is. For example; the penalty Rosberg received for his pass on Raikkonen and the tears about Alonso barging past Massa are exactly what this sport doesn't need. You want excitement yet the minute a driver does something using his own raw ability it is investigated. I'm all for ensuring a driver doesn't cause accidents, but if a rough pass is made and nobody crashes let it go.

+1 The FIA want their fingers in everything.
I do think what we're witnessing is nothing more than a generational shift.
The people who raced also ran the sport in the past. In addition, we're seeing millennials driving today - while every generation had it's challenges, the emotional maturity and primadonna outlook is typical of the generation. Of course it's the previous generation to blame for that. Kids have grown up in cotton wool with entertainment budgets right near the top of the family priorities. Don't forget that very often the ones entering F1 today are the ones who's parents could afford to sponsor them right from carting - that comes with it's own self entitlement to a greater extent.