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Haha, spectator dropped his phone and he pleaded with Hamilton to pass it back to him, which he did.
 
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Nice little rice though not spectacular but had good bits and pieces.

No surprise with results.

Indeed seems lately that races are ruled by sanctions rather than actions so not that great.

Anyhoo Interlagos here we come.
 
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Marsport said:
I have no issue with Max or Ricciardo winning it, what I want is a two way or three way battle between 3 different teams for a change.
+1 on Force India - they started with a bang but haven't moved up much since.
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As long as the next champion doesn't drive a car that is considerably better than its rivals.

On Force India; I was inferring that their budget/expertise has gotten them as far as it can. They're one of the teams that have complained about the current distribution of prize money and overall state of the sport in terms of cost and they are still very much reliant on their technical partnership with McLaren.

On the race; Max and Seb need to have an accident so they can get it out of their systems.

Note to F1; stop making tracks that do not punish mistakes. Too many drivers got away with off-track excursions and gardening duty.
 
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Looks like we're gonna have a new world champion soon. I just don't see the Ferraris or RBR helping Lewis by taking points away from Rosberg.
 
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Becoming quite irritated with Vettel's petulant outbursts lately. He had his moments with Red Bull for sure, but seems to have lost all class this season. Can't imagine any of the greats telling the race director to fukc off
 
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Polish said:
Nice little rice though not spectacular but had good bits and pieces.

No surprise with results.
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thestaggy said:
Note to F1; stop making tracks that do not punish mistakes. Too many drivers got away with off-track excursions and gardening duty.
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+1 Bring back the gravel traps. How many races didn't we see top WC beached for pushing it too hard? That was part of the fun.
 
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Angry Vettel drops to fifth after 10-second penalty

Ferrari's Sebastian Vettel has been handed a ten-second time penalty meaning Red Bull’s Daniel Ricciardo has been promoted to third place.

The penalty came after the German was investigated by stewards for potential dangerous driving while defending fourth place against Ricciardo in the closing laps of the Mexican Grand Prix.

Vettel and Ricciardo had already benefitted from a five second penalty handed down to Max Verstappen, who was judged to have gained an advantaging by cutting the track while defending against the Ferrari driver.

The same incident led to Vettel’s penalty, as the three drivers were bunched up going into Turn 4. Ricciardo attempted a move up the inside, only for the German to move over in the braking zone. The two rubbed wheels but both exited the corner unscathed.

The move was judged to be dangerous and Vettel was slapped with a ten second time penalty, elevating the Aussie to the podium even though he crossed the line in fifth.

The German was also handed two penalty points.

“The video footage… plus the telemetry shows that there was an abnormal change of direction by Car 5 and this was considered potentially dangerous in view of the proximity of the wheels of each car,” the stewards’ report said.

The new rule about ‘moving under braking’ was introduced by FIA Race Director Charlie Whiting ahead of the US Grand Prix after Verstappen had been accused of defending second place in a dangerous manner from Lewis Hamilton at the Japanese Grand Prix.

Vettel had welcomed the new rule, saying it had always been an “unwritten law” in Formula 1.

Following his penalty, Verstappen slammed the verdict and told Vettel to “go back to school”. His Red Bull teammate Ricciardo also got involved, accusing Vettel of ‘moving under braking’.

During the race, Vettel was heard saying on the radio about Verstappen: “He’s a ****. That’s what he is. Am I the only one or are you not seeing what I’m seeing?”

Then, when a Ferrari engineer said that Whiting was looking into the incident. Vettel could be heard saying, “Yeah? Here’s a message to Charlie: f*** off. Honestly, f*** off.”

Vettel will likely face punishment over his outburst by the sport’s governing body after speaking about the race director in such a manner.

Back in the pits,Vettel said that he had been to see Verstappen to talk to the 19-year-old.

“I had reason to be angry,” Vettel said.

“I went immediately to see him. Out of respect I went to him and told him what I did. I think he is aware and that is it,” he added.
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‘Rant unworthy of a four-time World Champ’

Helmut Marko was unimpressed with Sebastian Vettel’s behaviour in the closing laps of the Mexican GP as the former Red Bull driver launched into a sweary rant.

Vettel was angered by Max Verstappen’s antics in Mexico City, feeling that the Dutchman should have handed him third place after gaining an advantage through an off-track excursion.

Vettel not only cussed at Verstappen but also took his anger out at FIA race director Charlie Whiting, who he said should “f*** off.”

Red Bull advisor Marko was not impressed.

“The situation is unworthy of a four-time world champion,” Marko told Sky Sports.

“His choice of words certainly wasn’t first class.”

Vettel was handed third when Verstappen was penalised only to lose it hours later when he himself was penalised for his driving against Daniel Ricciardo.

The German has already spoken to Whiting about his rant.

Asked if he thought he might be facing a disrepute charge, Vettel told TV crews at the track: “I don’t understand why you are making a fuss and why you are asking the question.

“It was not the right thing to say, equally in my defence emotions and adrenaline is pumping high so I don’t understand why you are trying to push me in a corner and make me answer something that then you try to make into another loop.

“Out of respect I went to him and told him what I did. He is aware, and that’s it.”
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Out of respect... lol.
As for the Vettel / Verstappen incident, they really should have just got on the radio (stewards) and told Verstappen to hand the place to Vettel, end of... it wasn't a hard decision to make in the heat of the moment. The same goes for the Lewis incident. It would have done the race a favour to watch Lewis try win his place back.
 
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Out of respect... lol.
As for the Vettel / Verstappen incident, they really should have just got on the radio (stewards) and told Verstappen to hand the place to Vettel, end of... it wasn't a hard decision to make in the heat of the moment. The same goes for the Lewis incident. It would have done the race a favour to watch Lewis try win his place back.
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It has to be quite a humbling experience handing over your trophy ... :D
As it stands Ferrari doesn't have much to show for the year , especially not from Vettel .
 
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