Farmer arrested after allegedly knocking over 2 children with his car and assaulting a third

[Grant]

A farmer around here shifted from cattle as it was just being stolen all the time (They will literally come with a truck and steal the lot) to mielies...

All of a sardine the area has a ton of roadside shacks selling...can you guess....?

Roasted mielies...

He should change crops again - poison Ivy and devil's throrn

 

[ForceFate]

Spending a week in a nasty police cell for something you didn't do is an injustice, but unfortunately it is a reality of the clown world that is the South African justice system.

Police couldn't tell. There was a motive to commit the crime. It's up to the courts to weigh up the merits of the case.

If you hit 3 kids who run in front of your car through no fault of your own and you spend a week in a police cell to await your bail hearing, you probably wouldn't be too happy about it either.

Conjecture.

My comment speaks more to the general capacity of the SA justice system and quality of police than this particular individual.

 

[ForceFate]

If he is still in custody, then yes he has been treated unfairly.

Especially if he called the cops to come to the scene really. He is clearly attempting to do the right thing, and the cops also know where he lives so it should be easy to keep track of him until after the investigation determines a likely course of events.

We don't know what the police found at the scene. I pity the guy and can't comment on the merits of the case until more details emerge.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

"The father of the 10-year-old girl said they were under the impression the field had been harvested, meaning it was permissible to take what was left."

Really. The fcking arrogance.

Yeah right, combine harvesters don't leave any stalks standing. The father knows this. What were his kids doing on someone else's land anyway?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

According to the bible, yes.
I think they got the bible's fables confused with real life.

The bible says you can steal?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Without making an excuse for the farmers behavior because its obviously wrong, we are going to see more and more of these types of incidences due to the current crime levels and peoples general fed up attitude to crime itself.

And because when you report kids on your land (I have had agricultural pipe ripped out of the ground. Metres of it. In different locations and plastic valves smacked off with sticks as if playing golf), the police can't charge them because they're minors. And the public prosecutors drop charges against kids even if the kids get charged.

This is going to boil over some time until someone gets their kids under control.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

No idea about how commercial farmers operate but it's normal practice with subsistence farmers.

But even then, there are rules

Definitely. And different for races as well.

 

[ForceFate]

Definitely. And different for races as well.

I have no idea what you mean by that. Mind elaborating?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

I have no idea what you mean by that. Mind elaborating?

The law in SA is applied differently depending on the race of the complainant and perpetrator. Like the Coligny two...

 

[ForceFate]

The law in SA is applied differently depending on the race of the complainant and perpetrator. Like the Coligny two...

Rules vs laws.

I don't know why you bring up Coligny farmers into a discussion about something completely different.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Rules vs laws.

I don't know why you bring up Coligny farmers into a discussion about something completely different.

It's about the exact same thing. The skewed justice system in SA.

How were the Coligny guys prosecuted after a kid was killed in a vehicle accident after they caught him stealing sunflowers?

How is this guy already being treated as guilty after a vehicle accident where he was after kids stealing mielies?

Big similarities.

 

[ForceFate]

It's about the exact same thing. The skewed justice system in SA.

How were the Coligny guys prosecuted after a kid was killed in a vehicle accident after they caught him stealing sunflowers?

How is this guy already being treated as guilty after a vehicle accident where he was after kids stealing mielies?

Big similarities.

What I stated has absolutely nothing to do with the justice system. Absolutely none whatsoever.

 

[BuckRogers]

Rules vs laws.

I don't know why you bring up Coligny farmers into a discussion about something completely different.

Because its the same scenario.
White farmer judged by the media before any facts are evaluated in court.

 

[ForceFate]

Because its the same scenario.
White farmer judged by the media before any facts are evaluated in court.

/Facepalm

What? How do white farmers fit into unwritten rules of subsistence farmers in some remote rural village? Media? What?

 

[TheChamp]

Because its the same scenario.
White farmer judged by the media before any facts are evaluated in court.

Since when do we care about facts being evaluated in court? Did you care about them before judging Ace Magashule?

 

[RonSwanson]

Spending a week in a nasty police cell for something you didn't do is an injustice, but unfortunately it is a reality of the clown world that is the South African justice system.

If you hit 3 kids who run in front of your car through no fault of your own and you spend a week in a police cell to await your bail hearing, you probably wouldn't be too happy about it either.

My comment speaks more to the general capacity of the SA justice system and quality of police than this particular individual.

True, if it were anyone else besides a white farmer it would have been a culpable homicide docket.

 

[RonSwanson]

Police couldn't tell. There was a motive to commit the crime. It's up to the courts to weigh up the merits of the case.

Conjecture.

kak.

 

[RonSwanson]

The bible says you can steal?

Of course not. Israel had special feasts commanded by God. Leviticus 23:22 states God's instructions to his chosen people, the Jews, regarding the Feast of Weeks, which was a solemn occasion attended by all males, exactly 50 days after the "Feast of the First Fruits" (and therefore also known as the Pentecost). The Jewish people called this "Shauvot", and very specific sacrifice offerings were prescribed to be made at this time (late May/early June). The gleanings of the harvest were to be left on the field for the poor and makwerekwere. Yes, you heard right, xenophobia was a thing even back then.

Lev 23:15 "Starting the day after the Sabbath, count for yourselves seven weeks from the day you brought the sheaf of wave offering. They are to be complete.
Lev 23:16 Count fifty days to the day after the seventh Sabbath, then bring a new meal offering to the LORD.
Lev 23:17 "Bring two loaves of bread from home as wave offerings made from two tenths of fine flour, baked with leaven, as first fruits to the LORD.
Lev 23:18 "Along with the loaves of bread, bring seven lambs, a year old without defect, one young bull as an offering, and two rams as offering to the LORD, along with your gift and drink offerings, and present them as an offering made by fire, a pleasing aroma to the LORD.
Lev 23:19 "Prepare one male goat for a sin offering and two one year old rams for peace offerings.
Lev 23:20 Then the priest is to wave them—the two lambs with the bread of first fruits—as raised offering in the LORD's presence. They'll be sacred to the LORD on account of the priest.
Lev 23:21 "On the same day proclaim a sacred assembly for yourselves. You are not to do any servile work—and this is to be an eternal ordinance wherever you live throughout your generations.
Lev 23:22 Furthermore, when you harvest the produce of your land, you are not to harvest all the way to the corners of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Leave them for the poor and resident alien. I am the LORD your God.

 

[airborne]

The farmer maybe was genuinely just trying to scare them and then something went wrong. Any well no one knows yet what actually transpired.

I wonder why the guy was so keen to get the police there, he notified them, did the responsible thing, why not leave it at that. This is South Africa for fsks, you can count on the cops never coming out to an incident unless you badger them.

 

[J&B]

'Ermelo farmer accused of driving over children tried to save my child from drowning', says farmworker

A man who has worked as a farm labourer for the Ermelo farmer accused of driving after and running over children on his farm scoffed when asked if his employer was racist.

www.timeslive.co.za