FBI sought nuclear documents in search of Trump's home -Washington Post

ToxicBunny

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Was about to ask if he also pays tax in the US ......... maybe we can hook up for a some wings and a beer?

As for Trumpies being white trash - sorry to break it to the Gnomeo but Trump has supporters across all races. The racial thing is an SA obsession. Trash would have covered it......

I would normally have referenced White Trash as rednecks, but I've met some very fine and intelligent rednecks who have just never grown up so I figured that would be an insult to all the rednecks out there to automagically lump them in as Trumpies.
 

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What did you personally do to make our life better? Or do you have so low opinion of yourself that you have to sort to what your "race" people did?
Invented an instrument that can peer into the void beyond the universe. Yes, yes, I also thought there's no "beyond the universe".
 

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As for Trumpies being white trash - sorry to break it to the Gnomeo but Trump has supporters across all races. The racial thing is an SA obsession. Trash would have covered it......
While I won't disagree that there is support across demographics and race to a degree,the christo-fascism movement sweeping republican-controlled areas currently is a squarely White-majority-rule beast

Stuff like the anti-immigrant sentiment and anti-abortion laws are being flung left and right because majority abortions are white,plenty of repubs have commented that they need to maintain a white majority
 

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People with real achievements don't need to rely on what their ancestors did to make themselves feel more important.
This is the most ridiculous self entitled nonsense ever and one of the reasons for the societal collapse we see around us.

You might want to consider acknowledging how the achievements of the past build the society we have today and that any individual achievements are build upon that. No individual achievement stands alone. (And I say this as a libertarian almost ancap, who largely believes in individualism and am very anti-tribal)

The argument about who's tribe did what is stupid, the argument that achievements of the past doesn't matter to try and counter that is even more stupid.
 

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This is the most ridiculous self entitled nonsense ever and one of the reasons for the societal collapse we see around us.
You're insane.

The argument about who's tribe did what is stupid, the argument that achievements of the past doesn't matter to try and counter that is even more stupid.
I never said that trolltrot... I said that personally taking credit for what people of the same skin color, language, and ethnicity did in the past so as to make yourself seem better than others is stupid. We should all appreciate the achievements of humanity in the past as well as learn from our collective mistakes.

Holding yourself up as better than others today simply because your ancestors happened to be white or western is idiotic, sorry if that upsets you so much.
 

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You're insane.


I never said that trolltrot... I said that personally taking credit for what people of the same skin color, language, and ethnicity did in the past so as to make yourself seem better than others is stupid. We should all appreciate the achievements of humanity in the past as well as learn from our collective mistakes.

Holding yourself up as better than others today simply because your ancestors happened to be white or western is idiotic, sorry if that upsets you so much.
Some cultures are better than others that's a fact. Some lead to successful civilization and some to ruin.
 

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Gov’t argues unsealing Trump FBI raid affidavit unwise given ‘volatile’ state of the nation​

Government prosecutor Jay Bratt said unsealing the document would, "provide a roadmap" of an ongoing investigation still in its early stages. He also said the country is in a "volatile" state and releasing the names of witnesses or FBI agents would "chill" other witnesses who may still come forward.

"This is not a precedent we want to set," said Bratt. "The government is very concerned about the safety of witnesses in this case."

Both the government and lawyers for media organizations who want the entire affidavit unsealed, as well as Judge Reinhart, agreed this is a very unique and unprecedented case.

Charles Tobin, who argued for the Washington Post and other media organizations, said the raid on Mar-a-Lago was one of the most significant law enforcement actions in the nation's history.

"The public interest could not be greater," he said.


And there were a bunch of dumb dumbs who thought Trump would fight to prevent the documents from being made public....

That being said, the US government is lying. They used the FBI for political opponents and is now afraid the truth will come out.
 

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Gov’t argues unsealing Trump FBI raid affidavit unwise given ‘volatile’ state of the nation​




And there were a bunch of dumb dumbs who thought Trump would fight to prevent the documents from being made public....

That being said, the US government is lying. They used the FBI for political opponents and is now afraid the truth will come out.

Actually it says very little and was expected. It's extremely unlikely the document will be unsealed, especially non-redacted as it includes names of agents, informants, etc. So it doesn't really matter which position Trump takes on it. It's politicking from his side - just like Zuma telling us he wants his day in court...

The reasons why it won't be made public are 2 fold - firstly to protect the people named in there. Trump's supporters have already been attacking FBI agents that Trump leaked the names of so informants, FBI agents, etc would all be targeted.
Secondly, the underlying affidavit would likely help Trump with his defense - at the moment, his side keeps coming up with a whole lot of excuses because they don't know the details of the allegations against him. If he knew the details and the informants, he could target that and try and get ahead of everything.
 

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Actually it says very little and was expected. It's extremely unlikely the document will be unsealed, especially non-redacted as it includes names of agents, informants, etc. So it doesn't really matter which position Trump takes on it. It's politicking from his side - just like Zuma telling us he wants his day in court...

The reasons why it won't be made public are 2 fold - firstly to protect the people named in there. Trump's supporters have already been attacking FBI agents that Trump leaked the names of so informants, FBI agents, etc would all be targeted.
Secondly, the underlying affidavit would likely help Trump with his defense - at the moment, his side keeps coming up with a whole lot of excuses because they don't know the details of the allegations against him. If he knew the details and the informants, he could target that and try and get ahead of everything.
Update:
So the Judge (a Magistrate Judge) has said that the DoJ must find a way to unseal portions of the affidavit. DoJ has said if they redact, there will be nothing left of value, but the Judge has said they need to see what can be done. It might not come to that as it sounds like there is an appeal pending.
 

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If you're wondering how well Donny's team of central casting lawyers are doing, you know, other than making teevee appearances, Laura Ingram is here to help you out...


They haven't filed a single motion.

Not one.
Well

If anybody with half a braincell thought Faux News had anything of import to report they might want to reconsider the stance
 
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