Ferial Haffajee: Make black tax deductible

[JustAsk]

If you make the donations deductible, then it's a double burden on the tax payer if the recipients also get grants.

So if a charity receives 2 different monthly donations from 2 different companies, which is deductible. Is it a double burden on the tax payer?

 

[Sinbad]

So if a charity receives 2 different monthly donations from 2 different companies, which is deductible. Is it a double burden on the tax payer?

No.
The grant is taken from tax money paid by tax payers.

 

[JustAsk]

Straight up get fscked ferial... This is a stupid bloody idea...

What exactly makes it so stupid? If i can legally deduct dinners or holidays for my business as long as i can prove it was a business expense, what is so special about this.

 

[JustAsk]

No.
The grant is taken from tax money paid by tax payers.

Yeah, charities can access grants too, like lotto. The other donations is still deductible. Same thing

 

[Sinbad]

Yeah, charities can access grants too, like lotto. The other donations is still deductible. Same thing

Lotto isn't paid by taxpayers.

Anyway I kinda like this idea. My wife doesn't work, I'd love to deduct the cost of supporting her from my taxes.

Sars would owe me money

 

[ForceFate]

Dear Ferial

Nah, it won't work.

 

[JustAsk]

Lotto isn't paid by taxpayers.

Yea it is. After the operator and winnings are paid, the rest goes into a fund. That is tax.. Not forgetting the vat too.

 

[now05ster]

More racist drivel from the N24 media.

What about Indian tax, Coloured tax and White tax? Should these not also be deductible if SARS would ever allow such a hairbrained scheme?

I expected better from Ms Haffajee.

This is the type of article I would expect from her. Playing to her strengths I see.

Trolol

 

[RonSwanson]

Calling it "black tax" is crazy. Proponents of "Black Tax" suggest that only black people take care of family members and elders. The arrogance. There are many other skin colours who also look after younger family members and elders financially.

 

[ForceFate]

Calling it "black tax" is crazy. Proponents of "Black Tax" suggest that only black people take care of family members and elders. The arrogance. There are many other skin colours who also look after younger family members and elders financially.

"Black tax" is a social media phrase. The average person just calls it an allowance for a family member.

 

[saor]

The authors would likely baulk at such a suggestion for many write that it is not regarded as a burden, but it is an expense and it is expensive and often it fills the gap when state support is too small. SARS is likely to write off this suggestion far more quickly than it will a depreciating asset, but this form of solidarity deserves political recognition, and what better way than back in your pocket?

Then how about you extend such tax benefits to anyone who can provide evidence they support their families in such a burdensome way. Because presumably black people would also need to provide such evidence anyway? Or would the state extend it to all black people on the mere basis of them being black - whether they actually support their families like this or not?

Because if that's the case - that's stupid. That's not striving for equality. That's using your culture to leverage the state to put money in your pocket, which is fine, but then the state is arbitrarily biased toward some cultures, which is fine if the aim of the state is to favor certain groups, which is fine if you want inequality.

 

[RonSwanson]

"Black tax" is a social media phrase. The average person just calls it an allowance for a family member.

Sure, but it is still racist term because suggests that only black people can have a sense of moral duty, love, compassion and altruism. It suggests that all non-black people leave their elderly and extended family siblings out in the bush for the hyenas to chew on. It is based on the narcissistic arrogance, vanity and conceit of its proponents.

 

[genetic]

Straight up get fscked feral... This is a stupid bloody idea...

FTFY...

 

[ToxicBunny]

What exactly makes it so stupid? If i can legally deduct dinners or holidays for my business as long as i can prove it was a business expense, what is so special about this.

Is this a business expense?

If anything, there are considerations of Donations tax that may need to be levied instead actually.

 

[Gordon_R]

Is this a business expense?

If anything, there are considerations of Donations tax that may need to be levied instead actually.

Donations tax cuts in at a certain threshold (R100K per year). The 'assumption' being that amounts above that are beyond normal living expenses. Both are probably wrong, and a hangover from older days...

 

[ToxicBunny]

Donations tax cuts in at a certain threshold (R100K per year). The 'assumption' being that amounts above that are beyond normal living expenses. Both are probably wrong, and a hangover from older days...

Yeah I know the limits... but I would actually wonder how many people who pay this "black tax" may be sending more than R100k per tax year home, and who may actually technically be liable for donations tax...

 

[Gordon_R]

Yeah I know the limits... but I would actually wonder how many people who pay this "black tax" may be sending more than R100k per tax year home, and who may actually technically be liable for donations tax...

Probably not many, I'm just pointing out that there are limits to everything...

In any case, most of this might be cash payments, and very hard to provide documentary proof, and also not subject to fraud.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Probably not many, I'm just pointing out that there are limits to everything...

In any case, most of this might be cash payments, and very hard to provide documentary proof, and also not subject to fraud.

Yeah I know the realities... much of it will be cash, and difficult to prove..

It would be interesting how Ferial would see something like this being implemented given the realities of how "black tax" operates... For one I would see it being incredibly onerous and only a few would take advantage of the tax break, and also I would guess the vast majority of people paying "black tax" are very low down on the tax scale, so it won't make a monumental difference to their tax numbers and will just be a huge added burden to SARS in general... may actually cost more than its worth.

 

[clickingbuttons]

It amazes me how every day there is a race based news article.

Amazing rainbow nation, good job mandela

 

[ForceFate]

Sure, but it is still racist term because suggests that only black people can have a sense of moral duty, love, compassion and altruism. It suggests that all non-black people leave their elderly and extended family siblings out in the bush for the hyenas to chew on. It is based on the narcissistic arrogance, vanity and conceit of its proponents.

Just call it what you want. I call it an allowance.