Ferial Haffajee: Make black tax deductible

[Mila]

Sure, live in your own imaginary world where you put words in my mouth, tell me what I think and then call me ignorant <shrug> carry on playing with yourself, you don't need me here

Aww look a pity party when you are called out on your ignorance.

 

[ArmatageShanks]

Tsek, fokken Hond.

 

[supersunbird]

It amazes me how every day there is a race based opinion piece.

Amazing rainbow nation, good job mandela

FTFY.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Make private education, medical aid, insurance and armed response tax deductible. Each of those represent failure in government that have to be supplanted by private funds.

Hell while we're at it, make inflation tax deductible, mostly government policies sending prices higher and the ZAR into the toilet. And stop this BS of asking for monthly property taxes, I paid for it, I maintain it, I pay for every service government delivers to it.

 

[ForceFate]

Most beneficiaries of tax in SA are blacks who are not working. This is just the next step in SA which will benefit the blacks who are working.

How is it the next step?

 

[BBSA]

Tsek, fokken Hond.

Please, don't insult dogs.

 

[Vrotappel]

All names for things are made up! Yes, in this country it has a specific meaning, it is a colloquial term for money that black professionals give, and are expected to give, every month to support their less fortunate family and extended families. Yes, if it was made deductible it would apply for all tax payers not just black tax payers but it would still mostly be black earners who claim the deduction.

Such utter BS. Whites also support family. Stop using made up racist terms.

 

[Vrotappel]

In any event private expenses will never be tax deductible. Imagine the frenzied buying if it were.

You can already claim a medical tax credit for dependents including immediate family. I wonder if the racist Ferial Haffajee even knew this?

 

[RedViking]

Register the family as a Charity. You can also suport mine at

Vikings & Orphans /NPO

 

[Steamy Tom]

Register the family as a Charity. You can also suport mine at

Vikings & Orphans /NPO

I already support your mom ffs

 

[konfab]

In any event private expenses will never be tax deductible. Imagine the frenzied buying if it were.

Unless if you own a small business. Then that Nintendo Switch can be classified as staff entertainment

You can already claim a medical tax credit for dependents including immediate family. I wonder if the racist Ferial Haffajee even knew this?

Ignore the casual racism going on and think about this carefully.
I view it as privatising the welfare system in the best way possible. The reason why I think it is a really good idea is that unlike a state welfare system, a family/relationship based system can be discriminatory. Since it is your own money you are spending, most people are not going to give it to an alcoholic drug dealer who beats their wife. You actually have to be a good human being if you want someone else's money.

Simply implement the following rule:
The dependant you are giving money has to have a monthly income below a certain amount (lets say minimum wage) and the money you give them isn't allowed to exceed it, and the burden is on the taxpayer to prove that this is the case every tax year. You can then have as many dependants as you want to, provided that your tax deductions from this do not exceed 50% of your taxable income.

The logical scenario for this IMO would be helping out with the school fees for a domestic worker, or gardener's kids. I think a lot of middle class people would do this type of thing. Because despite what people might think, South Africans are actually quite a generous group of people...

https://businesstech.co.za/news/wealth/290624/these-are-the-most-generous-countries-in-the-world/

 

[ToxicBunny]

In reality, it would simply be a black hole down which SARS could never prove or disprove anything.

I know, and I would take full advantage of something like this if they ever even thought of it... would probably be able to almost zero my annual tax bill.... SARS could pay off my homeloan for me in a few years, it would be glorious.

 

[ForceFate]

I know, and I would take full advantage of something like this if they ever even thought of it... would probably be able to almost zero my annual tax bill.... SARS could pay off my homeloan for me in a few years, it would be glorious.

Our government would never implement something like this.

 

[RedViking]

Our government would never implement something like this.

Why not?

It fits the whole selective-decolinization and africanization.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Our government would never implement something like this.

I know they wouldn't... but I'm in the world for dreaming now if you please... also possibly allowing SARS to realise they would almost effectively zero PIT collections across the board (its almost a guarantee that someone from SARS is on this forum).

Even on legit amounts of "assistance" to direct family (my parents), I could reclaim around 40% of my tax every month.

 

[grok]

If the practice of 'black tax' ie. the communal looking after each other financially is to be rewarded by being tax-deductible, then I suggest the inverse should be true too..

We should implement an additional punitive tax on blacks for:

1. the infrastructure destroyed by their extended families & delinquent spawn due to the burning of schools and the destruction of property & looting during protests.
2. the constant and unending stealing of government resources either through direct theft, dodgy tenders & indirectly via destruction of infrastructure.
3. an RDP type of financial compensation for state capture & the Guptas since their big-daddy-o pappy of the nation Zuma is ultimately responsible for the losses.
4. a separate tax on black politicians to compensate for all the loss-making decisions they made in terms of losing the country value (SOE's like SAA & Eskom etc fall into this category).

If Ferial Haffajee wanted real sharing of solidarity and communal responsibility, then she'd agree to make everyone responsible for the incompetence & inabilities of everyone else & not just the gimme-gimme parts..

"My personal observation is that most black people become breadwinners at an early age, some even at 18, and are then expected to be 'deputy parents'."

A direct result of having too many kids and being unable to financially support them..
So now you want everybody else to pay for your lack of responsible family planning too?

 

[ForceFate]

Why not?

It fits the whole selective-decolinization and africanization.

Firstly, this is an opinion piece by Ferial and not by politicians. Secondly, There's already not enough money to run government efficiently. Also, a system like this will be much easy to manipulate for personal gain, even b well-off families.

 

[clickingbuttons]

If the practice of 'black tax' ie. the communal looking after each other financially is to be rewarded by being tax-deductible, then I suggest the inverse should be true too..

We should implement an additional punitive tax on blacks for:

1. the infrastructure destroyed by their extended families & delinquent spawn due to the burning of schools and the destruction of property & looting during protests.
2. the constant and unending stealing of government resources either through direct theft, dodgy tenders & indirectly via destruction of infrastructure.
3. an RDP type of financial compensation for state capture & the Guptas since their big-daddy-o pappy of the nation Zuma is ultimately responsible for the losses.
4. a separate tax on black politicians to compensate for all the loss-making decisions they made in terms of losing the country value (SOE's like SAA & Eskom etc fall into this category).

If Ferial Haffajee wanted real sharing of solidarity and communal responsibility, then she'd agree to make everyone responsible for the incompetence & inabilities of everyone else & not just the gimme-gimme parts..



A direct result of having too many kids and being unable to financially support them..
So now you want everybody else to pay for your lack of responsible family planning too?

I think the default go to here would be to blame apartheid for that problem.

 

[RedViking]

Firstly, this is an opinion piece by Ferial and not by politicians. Seconds, There's already not enough money to run government efficiently. Also, a system like this will be much easy to manipulate for personal gain, even b well-off families.

Well, even better for the whole decolonization thing.

opinions on opinion pieces.

 

[Nicodeamus]

if I adopt a black child, does that allow me to make deductions?