Five things you need to know about the new National Health Insurance Bill

SaiyanZ

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If he's got kids and a wife it would be more. Also some companies don't give you a choice of your package.

Yeah I was quite pissed off about that. The last place I worked had a staff medical aid with a comprehensive only option which I was not aware of when I took the job. So the jump in medical aid cost was a few thousand rands. It felt quite crap suddenly paying extra for something that I never used. Was only there for a year though.
 

jambai

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No, NHI will to some extent replace medical aids.
Their plan is for medical aids to still exist but more as a complimentary/supplementary service to NHI.
Sort of like gap cover we have in existing medical aids.

Also I would think if medical aids are covering the same services NHI is, service providers are always going to try to pull payment from medical aids instead of NHI. This is of course assuming NHI runs like every other SOE in the country. You may also have certain providers saying they will only accept medical aid and not NHI (though this will probably be illegal). They don't want any "competition".

It's going to be "interesting" at the very least.
interesting in that it wont work.nothing really more to discuss.They assuming we will be able to afford it .The extra taxes will not be afforded and then they assuming there will be specialists left to serve the NHI.Just those two reasons are strong enough for it to fail
 

Gaz{M}

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So where are all the affluent ANC influencers now? You do realise this is going to kill you and your family?

When is enough enough?

Surely Ministers know this will affect them too? What about all the ANC funders and business people? Isn't it enough now? When will you take action?

I already pay for private everything, in after tax money that is stolen and given to the poor and connected. Don't take my last dying breathe too.
 

Mephisto_Helix

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Jesus, sounds like a right abortion .... steamroll over people's freedom and forge ahead with shyte. Bet some rose colored mybb'ers are looking forward to this :laugh:
 

Alan

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IIn general socialised health services are a good thing, and they're working all over the world. They give access to health care, and they usually don't stop the well off from paying extra to get care faster or use some more expensive treatment. But they work because they're competently managed, and they have enough people paying tax to fund them. The same goes for other socialised services. It works, it is good, but it requires that management.
Where's it working on our continent?
 

daveza

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https://www.news24.com/Columnists/G...oad-to-the-national-health-insurance-20190808


NHI proposals envision that the entire population of South Africa would need to actively choose a primary healthcare provider to be pre-funded by the National Health Insurance Fund on their behalf. So not only would the fund need to administer 56 million enrollees who could technically not receive benefits without being enrolled, it must also manage their self-assignment to healthcare facilities.

This proposal is, therefore, a considerable undertaking for which no precedent exists in South Africa.

Secondly, it is proposed that financing to hospitals be activity-based, i.e. that hospitals be reimbursed for people's care based on the estimated costs of certain categories of treatment. This means that the treatment a patient receives has to be matched with their information and validated so that the fund could ensure that hospitals are only paid for what they provided. This would require universal public and private sector implementation of electronic patient records and associated business processes at a very high standard at all levels of care.
Hah, is there anyone who believes this is even remotely possible.

They can't even run a frigging post office !
 

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supersunbird

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2026? Not going happen, unless they cut many corners and end up having a disaster / breach / massive downtime within 2 years of going live.
 

dj2381

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Post office? :ROFL:
They couldn't even run (pay for) their "own" website, nevermind a post office or nhi....


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EDIT: Wait...did they ever have this? (Because I see they have anc1912.org.za)
Did I just egg myself? :ROFL:
Someone should buy this domain and turn it into an exact copy of the ANC website with a few additions, much fun could be had, price is a bit steep for that trash though.
 

LazyLion

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All the best doctors and most of the specialists will leave the country. Over 80% of those surveyed already said they will leave the country if NHI is implemented.

If X is what people are currently paying for medical care, the Government is going to double that amount and then try to care for 6 more people. The math just doesn't work out.

Plus the government track record for running these kinds of operations is dismal, there is no way in hell they will EVER run this efficiently at all, and it will probably be an utter disaster in less than ten years.

So by 2029, we will have NO power, no post office, no SABC, no national air carrier AND no health care either.

We need to oppose this in every way possible. We need to start protesting this in the streets and the steps of Parliament NOW.
 

daveza

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^^ problem is the majority think this is going to get them private quality healthcare.
 

nightjar

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I have faith that our government is so useless that NHI will never come to pass.
The essence of the whole system is that it will be a benefit scheme, like VBS, and a handful of privileged comrades will rake off the big bucks.
 
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