Flu virus with 'pandemic potential' found in China

Mystic Twilight

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Why? A morgue is meant to be a sanitised space and that is for meat not meant for consumption for gods sakes. Seriously, this is not a new thing coming out of China. It has been happening for fcking decades. Learn your lesson or then suffer the consequences.
Well the immediate obvious part is that an abattoir is continuously cutting up carcasses with blood and guts being exposed everywhere, whereas a dead human is normally contained on a tray in their own skin at a low temperature, or loose parts in a box at a low temperature to prevent decay.
 

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Let me google that for you. 10 Million pigs in India vs 310 million in China.
Not quite the same?

The European Union has 148 million pigs.

The EU population is 447 million. 1 pig per 3 people.
China's population is 1.3 billion. 1 pig per 4.2 people.

The EU is the leading exporter of pork products.


Why is EU pork not causing global viral outbreaks?

Someone mentioned climate. Pretty sure Europe, with those nice winters, is conducive to the spread of 'flu-like' viruses.

Could it perhaps be that China needs to look at the way they handle, process and consume livestock and meat products?
 
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India also has almost 18% of the worlds population but you don't see shyte like this coming outta there.
I have heard of multitude reasons for this from researchers. High temperatures & humidity in many areas, absolutely draconian level of lockdown in early stages and ongoing in some states (we guys moan for stupid things here), insufficient testing, lack of medical records. Also childhood vaccination drive is absolutely mental there - e.g. bcg vaccine for TB could be one of reasons for resistance. And less than 8% elderly population (even though that 8% could be twice than SA's entire populace). Some say it would hit India later than others - difficult to know really..
 

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So, if you read up, there's actually A LOT of viruses on the verge of becoming more serious. Its been like that for a while and every so often one does its thing - hello COVID-19.

But the chances of another one being this bad right on the back of COVID-19 especially with all the increased controls seems extremely highly unlikely. I think there's more chance of Earth being hit by a Borg Cube that went off course at this stage.
 

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BSE outbreak(s) in the UK make headlines.
The Zika virus made headlines as it ripped through Brazil.
The Ebola outbreak received global coverage.

We'd hear of something if it went down in the world's second most populace country.

Right now its just Delhi Belly that nukes visitors to India and it is no secret that sanitation, contaminated water and hygiene are huge issues in India so we have a good idea why this is a thing. Something is clearly off with the way China handles its livestock or how they interact with livestock that this keeps happening.

2018 saw 26 million Indians travel internationally and it is rapidly growing number. So not on China's level but that is still a lot of people.

That place so dirty no virus can survive there.
 

Mystic Twilight

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The European Union has 148 million pigs.

The EU population is 447 million. 1 pig per 3 people.
China's population is 1.3 billion. 1 pig per 4.2 people.

The EU is the leading exporter of pork products.


Why is EU pork not causing global viral outbreaks?

Someone mentioned climate. Pretty sure Europe, with those nice winters, is conducive to the spread of 'flu-like' viruses.

Could it perhaps be that China needs to look at the way they handle, process and consume livestock and meat products?
More likely europe learned their lessons about pandemics with the spanish flu, black death, etc, much earlier and developed better hygiene control to manage against infections hence why you don't likely see pandemics occurring nowadays, but their farm animals still encounter viral infections. They relatively recently had to cull a lot of pigs worldwide due to african swine fever.


And also recently avian flu in europe.


So don't be so smug about how europe seems to be immune to these issues. Historically europe has been the cause of many outbreaks worldwide during the age of discovery, bringing measles, smallpox, tb, etc, to "discovered" countries/continents, that completely wrecked indigenous population groups to near genocide levels. A pandemic can easily start from any country.

China does look the other way, but so do a lot of other countries in various other industries.
 
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