Food disruption: Our time of eating meat could be drawing to a close

Jopie Fourie

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In 100 years from now the world will have new leaders and 80% of the population will no longer exist. The remaining will be too busy rebuilding life.
 

NarrowBandFtw

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once long pig or soylent green gains traction on restaurant menus this problem sorts itself out pretty fast ...
 

Tokolotshe

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I believe this should be the future :

Indeed. Eating meat of cattle food can be equally destructive. It's easy trying to isolate one pet part of life to blame, typing away on your brand new iPhone/Galaxy to fight the SJW wars.

Part of the answer is rather counter-intuitive and proven. Increase the amount of livestock/hectare, but rotate the as nature would. Use animals as a tool.

Allan Savory: Hope for Reversing Desertification and Climate Change - What You Can Do
The irony is that in order to point out the problem, he first has to problem with our institutions and clever scientists.

Regreening the desert with John D. Liu - Docu - 2012

Destroy weeds? Legislation? Oh sure ...

Rotational grazing is not holistic management ... the haters tried :)

So sorry anti-meat'ers. I'm doing my part for our future. Back to nature ... ;)
 

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Malthusian prophesies like these have never come about. The biggest health problem in the world is that people eat too much food.

Simple fact of the matter is that free markets have completely solved the world's food supply problem. The Netherlands is the case in point:

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/09/holland-agriculture-sustainable-farming/

Netherlands is smaller than Mmumalanga yet they export something like $61 billion worth of agicultural products alone.
South Africa exported about $11 billion.

In fact most of Europe is highly productive in their agricultural exports, despite them being relatively small.
Greenhouses - lots and lots and lots of them. (That was 30 years ago when I lived there)

They have all kinds of fruits and veg all year round (don't ask me how they did it but I remember buying watermelon in the middle of winter)
 

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Beyond Meat is hoping we'll eat their plastic so that they can be the next trillion-dollar company...
 

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Quantis conducted a Life Cycle Assessment (LCA) on beef raised by White Oak Pastures to “account for the energy and environmental impacts of all stages of a product’s life cycle, such as [the] acquisition of raw materials, the production process, handling of waste byproducts, and more.[3] Using both soil sampling and modeled data from 2017, the LCA analyzed the farm’s overall greenhouse gas footprint. The study included enteric emissions (belches and gas) from cattle, manure emissions, farm activities, slaughter and transport, and carbon sequestration through soil and plant matter.

The research team was so astounded by White Oak Pastures LCA that they called in academics from other universities and institutes to confirm the methodology. Their results were so compelling that the lead researcher, Dr. Jason Rowntree of Michigan State University plans to publish them in a peer-reviewed journal later this year.

@Sollie --> Here is a study of holistically managed beef.

For those who don't want to read documents, here is a video:

 
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Tokolotshe

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The point of post #44.
"The research team was so astounded ..." - exactly the syndrome Allan Savory describes. Why should they be surprised? Just because certain people are not part of "Club Peer"? Yet these are the people making policies, a day late and a dollar short.
 

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You gotta love how some people are jumping up and down going "24% of global greenhouse gas emissions that are produced by agriculture, forestry and land use! WE MUST FIX THIS!"

But when you point out that 65% is because of fossil fuels and industrial processes, they just go "meh"

-G-
 

Tokolotshe

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You gotta love how some people are jumping up and down going "24% of global greenhouse gas emissions that are produced by agriculture, forestry and land use! WE MUST FIX THIS!"

But when you point out that 65% is because of fossil fuels and industrial processes, they just go type "meh" on their new smart iPhone.

-G-
Unfortunately the truth. The problem is they don't understand it. The want the latest, keep up with the Joneses in their latest fashionable GreenPeace t-shirts ...

In the meantime Apple has a terrible product life cyle for own profit. They may recycle, sure, but that takes energy. But they'd rather resell you a new item than simply replacing a small discrete component in a repair process. Of course this is wrapped up in a BS quality marketing message. $$Profit!!

The greenie makes his life mining bitcoins. Really?

Clueless clucks. Let's run after the next piper with a sexy message ... never taking time to understand.
 

lived666

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Beyond Meat is hoping we'll eat their plastic so that they can be the next trillion-dollar company...

Sure, they in business to make money, but I gather you haven't tasted their products. What's with the hate for vegan products, if it's not for you, don't buy it, but plastic, nah, tastes better than some beef burgers (**cough** mcdonalds)
 

Mila

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These fattastic body positivitea movement should just stop eating so much.





// hides
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Johnatan56

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You will probably find that most folks on this forum are pretty much against population growth, single to two child families. Also the fertility rates are dropping amongst your middle class ( either medically or enforced because people are cutting back ). Its actually your destitute that are the greatest population increasers.

And wasnt there a concern raised a while back how China is looking at a serious problem due to their one child policy? Can't recall the details.
Are you referring to this?
 

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Food disruption: Our time of eating meat could be drawing to a close

<Gasp> oh lordy it is really going to suck eating dried spiced carrots during RWC 2051. Do vegans get paid to write this stuff or is it purely voluntary?
 
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