Ford Fiesta 1.0L Ecooboost - P2177 error code

[TheChamp]

The petrol pump probably didn't even need replacing. A low fuel pressure from there would affect all the cylinders, not one intermittently. The OP can try replace just the injectors obviously along with the plugs.

Replace everything and hope somewhere in the replaced parts there's a culprit, it's the dealership tried and tested method.

 

[TheChamp]

I am out of warranty unfortunatly. So whatever this issue is, I'm hoping it can be found and that it won't break my bank account!

Is your mechanic the same guy who is doing the diagnostics?

He can try to swap the injector, coil as well as the plug around and do the diagnostic again and see if the code moves.

 

[Gtx Gaming]

Hats off to Ford for replacing the engine of a car where the Warratee has expired. I do not know who paid for rthe second engine. My grandson actually traded the car in on another brand before the factory issued a clearance for the second engine.

Indeed that is pretty good on them , pity the guy below was not that lucky lol

 

[agentrfr]

Get him to clean the injectors, and replace the fuel filter, MAF and O2 sensors. Those are all cheap and easy to do.

Also get him to do a CO2 leak test from the coolant reservoir. If there is CO2 there, then the engine block gasket is kaput - which is a huge pain in the bum to fix

 

[LLoydizle]

Is your mechanic the same guy who is doing the diagnostics?

He can try to swap the injector, coil as well as the plug around and do the diagnostic again and see if the code moves.

Hi there!

Yes he is. It’s the owner of the shop and the actual mechanic I’m talking to.

Right now he said he has “Cleaned the plugs and busy doing a compression test to verify tolerance”.

I will also pass on what you mentioned. They did reset the codes though, so right now it’s no popping up. It will probably pop up again in like a week or so though if the issue hasn’t actually been fixed.

 

[Nemesys]

Is your mechanic the same guy who is doing the diagnostics?

He can try to swap the injector, coil as well as the plug around and do the diagnostic again and see if the code moves.

On my Granson's car the original dianostic codes were P0300 Random misfire detected P0303 cylinder 3 misfire detected
The dealership did an endoscope check at the cost of R2500 which found a crack in the no 3 piston.

 

[TheChamp]

On my Granson's car the original dianostic codes were P0300 Random misfire detected P0303 cylinder 3 misfire detected
The dealership did an endoscope check at the cost of R2500 which found a crack in the no 3 piston.

Eish, hope for OP's sake it's not that.

 

[LLoydizle]

Get him to clean the injectors, and replace the fuel filter, MAF and O2 sensors. Those are all cheap and easy to do.

Also get him to do a CO2 leak test from the coolant reservoir. If there is CO2 there, then the engine block gasket is kaput - which is a huge pain in the bum to fix

Thank you! I’ve forwarded this to the mechanic!

 

[LLoydizle]

Eish, hope for OP's sake it's not that.

If that’s the case, I’ll try and settle the debt on the car by trading it in and having someone else fix it!

 

[LLoydizle]

On my Granson's car the original dianostic codes were P0300 Random misfire detected P0303 cylinder 3 misfire detected
The dealership did an endoscope check at the cost of R2500 which found a crack in the no 3 piston.

So far the only code I’ve gotten was P2177. Besides that, I haven’t seen anything else (hopefully it stays that way)!

 

[LLoydizle]

Update:

So the mechanic has literally tested everything under the sun.

- Compression tests have come back as excellent
- MAF sensor has come back with zero issues
- The o2 sensor had been replaced two weeks ago and that still came up with an issue, so it wasn't that.
- He checked the fuel filter and fuel injectors and there weren't any issues there. and he also cleaned the fuel injectors.

He tried performing as many tests as he possibly could over the past few days instead of replacing things that will add up in cost + labor. He wanted to try and find the issue and rectify that before he thought about changing anything.

He did find one issue though - my spark plugs. Back in November, the spark plugs were changed when I did my annual service. This is what he mentioned:

"The plugs we installed were prescribed for the car. The challenge was that these are seven different engine codes and the suffixes are the issue." He then proceeds to say...

"The real issue here is NGK, Bosch, and Champion equivalents were prescribed incorrectly. This is the only thing we found. Please remember that it's excruciatingly difficult if the engine light only comes on after 140km of trouble-free driving"

After that, I stated that this issue might not actually be fixed as what he is saying doesn't sound assuring. He said:

"Not from where I am sitting. Nothing else is out of place. It took us days to assure that. It all came down to a product design issue. The entire list of possibles has been ticked off. Every last thing anybody thought of. So that must at least be 95% confidence"

He then ended by saying that "The last 5% is called the Ford factor", which made me laugh a little.

I'm really hoping that this is the issue - Incorrect spark plugs. I'll have to keep an eye on the car over the next few weeks and hope that this issue is finally gone. It's caused too much stress in my life.