Foreign guests at Diwali celebration in Pretoria called 'coolies and k*****s'

[Fulcrum29]

so its fine to be racist towards another if they are doing wrong

mybb mentality

What if it was an Indian who didn't feel the noise?

 

[EADC]

so its fine to be racist towards another if they are doing wrong

mybb mentality

No it's not fine the racist savage is a ****.

 

[I.am.Sam]

Nobody ever said it's fine to be racist, that isn't even up for debate.

so not much discussion on the race issue ...more on the fireworks hey

 

[I.am.Sam]

What if it was an Indian who didn't feel the noise?

he is a racist

is it fine for another person to be racist towards someone of the same race ?

 

[ShaunSA]

I'd comment but I'm too busy scarfing down a beef burger

 

[Fulcrum29]

he is a racist

is it fine for another person to be racist towards someone of the same race ?

It is actually a white guy,

WATCH | Man accused of racial slurs during Diwali celebrations in Pretoria

In what was meant to be a day of celebration for the Hindus across the country turned into a nightmare experience for a number Indian expats and diplomats in Pretoria on Sunday night.

www.sowetanlive.co.za

WATCH | Man accused of racial slurs during Diwali celebrations in Pretoria

A Pretoria man will lodge a complaint with the SA Human Rights Commission and open criminal charges against a resident at a plush complex who allegedly hurled racist insults at him and his guests for lighting fireworks on Sunday.

Pradeep Ramlall, his family and guests - including Indian diplomats - were the subject of a scathing verbal attack while they were celebrating Diwali at his son's home in Arcadia, about a kilometre from President Cyril Ramaphosa's official residence.

Around 70 people, including 30 diplomats from India, had gathered at the Falcon's Nest Clubhouse for the celebration when a resident in the complex, Chris Venter, approached them.

Ramlall said they had obtained permission from the body corporate to set off fireworks until 11pm.

“I hosted the gathering and it was mixed crowd of people of different nationalities and races who attended. A lot of my guests had brought their children along to witness the display. It was mainly for the children.”

Ramlall said they were "abruptly interrupted" by Venter, who, Ramlall claimed, used vulgar language and racial slurs.

“He called my son the k-word and even referred to us using the c-word, saying we must go back to India.”
Venter was captured on video arguing with Ramlall and his family.

TimesLIVE is also in possession of footage of Venter destroying the fireworks.

Ramlall was expected to open charges on Monday for malicious damage to property, crimen injuria, harassment and theft.

On Tuesday he will lay a complaint against Venter at the SA Human Rights Commission.

When approached for comment, Venter denied the allegations, saying he never used any derogatory words.

He was adamant he was not a racist, and said he had been fighting for animal rights after his cat suffered an injury due to the fireworks.

“There are a lot of witnesses as well that were there of the Indian and Hindu community who are with me on that, who said I have not said that.”

Venter said it would not make sense for him to say the k-word because he doesn't think “it's applicable to Hindu people”, and he would have “said something else if he wanted to be racist”.

He said the fireworks he had damaged were illegal.

“We can go to court, we can do it later. I don't care what happens. The truth will set us free.”

He said he talked to everyone at the gathering very nicely, that he understood what was happening and he tried to be as calm as possible.

“We'll let the videos speak for themselves. I was defending animals.”

Ramlall, who sits on the board of trustees, said the complex's residents had been informed via a letter dated October 25 that the Nest Clubhouse had been booked for a fireworks display for Diwali.

R500 000 fine/ 5 years jail?

 

[Fulcrum29]

 

[I.am.Sam]

It is actually a white guy,

WATCH | Man accused of racial slurs during Diwali celebrations in Pretoria

In what was meant to be a day of celebration for the Hindus across the country turned into a nightmare experience for a number Indian expats and diplomats in Pretoria on Sunday night.

www.sowetanlive.co.za

R500 000 fine/ 5 years jail?

mybb guy probably

 

[ponder]

is it fine for another person to be racist towards someone of the same race ?

apparently it is

 

[ArtyLoop]

mybb guy probably

Paul Mein Man?

 

[Eniigma]

If you wanna blow crackers take them back to their trailer park in West Virginia.

Nah, we use tannerite for that.

 

[Zoomzoom]

I disagree with how the man handled the situation, but shoving a flyer under someone's door does not give you the right to let off fireworks in a residential area! Ditto for other 'cultural' activities like slaughtering animals etc. These activities pose a significant risk to others and should be conducted away from other people, animals and children who might be harmed.

Or replaced with less harmful activities like slaughtering chickens in front of the altar to coerce God into answering prayer was replaced by lighting a candle in the Catholic church.

 

[chefdude98]

I think this guy's behavior is unacceptable and inexcusable

BUT

I have watched the video and cannot hear him using racial slurs.

I do however hear him saying :"go back to india" "white people have been here longer than indians" f bombs etc but I couldnt hear any racial slurs.

He should have taken the body corporate to court.

There are more dignified ways of addressing these issues.

Oh and the indian family threatened him with a gun.

2 wrongs don't make a right.

 

[Eniigma]

Its still not cool just because the by laws bow to "my religion" doesn't mean I have to sit through a ****ing war zone.

Its festival of lights not festival of trying to recreate Vietnam

Meh, for 1 day a year, it's nothing to get worked up over and I stay in Durban and we have a lot more people celebrating that here.

Pretty sure @EADC was being sarcastic, going purely on his post history.

My personal opinion though is **** idiots who think that loud bangs and sparkly lights are entertaining.

Wanna take this outside? I think it's entertaining, but don't take part myself. Much cheaper to let my neighbours entertain me with their bangs and sparks.

 

[Zoomzoom]

Fireworks should be banned. Worldwide. No exceptions. There are less polluting, less dangerous alternatives. Use them.

 

[Grant]

so its fine to be racist towards another if they are doing wrong

mybb mentality

I told you not to go, you were more drunk than usual. No, I'm fine you said.
Now we hear how you lost control of your yapper and hurled abuse at all??

 

[Ninja'd]

I do however hear him saying :"go back to india" "white people have been here longer than indians" f bombs etc

 

[I.am.Sam]

Fireworks should be banned. Worldwide. No exceptions. There are less polluting, less dangerous alternatives. Use them.

cause of fireworks this white guy became a racist right

 

[Zoomzoom]

Meh, for 1 day a year, it's nothing to get worked up over and I stay in Durban and we have a lot more people celebrating that here.

All is fine until someone gets hurt. Fireworks cause hundreds of horrific injuries and deaths every single year to people and animals. They are a relic of a by-gone era and should be banned.

 

[chefdude98]

It is actually a white guy,

WATCH | Man accused of racial slurs during Diwali celebrations in Pretoria

In what was meant to be a day of celebration for the Hindus across the country turned into a nightmare experience for a number Indian expats and diplomats in Pretoria on Sunday night.

www.sowetanlive.co.za

R500 000 fine/ 5 years jail?

Judging from that video ,I don't know.

It had racial undertones but not direct racism.