Foreigners obtain study visas in a day, task team finds

TheChamp

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A probe of the Department of Home Affairs' visa and residency applications has revealed foreign applicants younger than 25 are approved for retirement and study visas in just one day. Study visas were approved with vague, nonsensical or little information about the "learner".

This emerged during Home Affairs Minister Aaron Motsoaledi's briefing to the Portfolio Committee on Home Affairs.

On Wednesday, Motsoaledi, senior department officials, and a task team reviewing permits and visas presented their findings.

 

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Motsoaledi must be careful because:

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. He must be cautious"​

 

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I know of someone that got a critical skill visa as an admin staff member without any real skills or qualifications.
 

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Using study visas was how I traveled during most of my 20s. They are or at least were a loophole for many countries.
 

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Where is the shock emoji......... corruption is just who ever thinks of it first will get the money
 

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It's all fine, its just more Guptas getting expedited ID docs to come help that ex-prez prime corrupt steal our taxpayer money, again.

Else, TIA! bribery & corruption are our middle names since we believe its only a crime in a western paradigm
 

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A probe of the Department of Home Affairs' visa and residency applications has revealed foreign applicants younger than 25 are approved for retirement and study visas in just one day. Study visas were approved with vague, nonsensical or little information about the "learner".

This emerged during Home Affairs Minister Aaron Motsoaledi's briefing to the Portfolio Committee on Home Affairs.

On Wednesday, Motsoaledi, senior department officials, and a task team reviewing permits and visas presented their findings.

I wonder what the Cameroonian stats are? We understand the significance of the Nigerian stats.

Unfortunately we have many of these types here:

The infamous student visa is an open invite to young cyber criminals if not controlled, monitored. They arrive, never leave, yet have no subsequent record of living here. The literally disappear in the local populace.

Background:

It's a pity Roland Abeng got caught up in more serious issues, but a great gentleman, he really tried: https://fakoamerica.typepad.com/chia/2010/08/cameroon-a-scammers-and-cybercriminals-paradise.html

Google: Elvis Petit scammer (and he's only one of many) :sick:

We have allowed a massive problem to fester locally that will take years to clean up - once we start. In the meantime it's ripping South Africans a new one, seeing our businesses being spoofed, sham CIPC registrations, bankrupting start-ups and small businesses, identity theft and blackmailing, seeing South Africa labelled as scammers abroad, seeing international companies geo-blocking South Africa. It's affecting our trade relations.

Non-delivery fraud accounted or the second highest losses in IC3's stats last year, just after BEC, way ahead of ransomware and phishing. Yet we've allow these chaps to use our infrastructure to become a hub for these syndicates, along with the Cameroon and Thailand. The Ukraine was another, but now it's spread out a bit, but a lot of new problems showing up originating from Poland and Germany.

Results, custom lists for ZA targeting scams:

Similar exists for Canada and Australia. In many cases the actors responsible are living it up in JHB & PTA.
 

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Using study visas was how I traveled during most of my 20s. They are or at least were a loophole for many countries.
But you can't work on a study VISA, right?
Yes I know in SA a lot of people are employed informally and so on.
But in the EU I would assume this would be very tough.
US to a lesser extent but still not like you would get a job easily since they do crack down on this (and more importantly you are probably going to get paid peanuts)
 

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But you can't work on a study VISA, right?
Yes I know in SA a lot of people are employed informally and so on.
But in the EU I would assume this would be very tough.
US to a lesser extent but still not like you would get a job easily since they do crack down on this (and more importantly you are probably going to get paid peanuts)
You could when I used them for the UK and Australia, although you were technically limited to part-time jobs. Some of them were quite high paying though. Things may have changed now though.
 

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we're so screwed that whenever the state does something quickly (like approving a visa) it is an indication of corruption at play rather than efficiency

FML
 

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we're so screwed that whenever the state does something quickly (like approving a visa) it is an indication of corruption at play rather than efficiency

FML
Preventing foreigners from getting work, is in my opinion, one of the least capitalist social constructs ever created.
It is a mechanism put in place to protect low skilled "citizens" in their respective societies.

Unskilled labour like warehouse packing, answering telephones, janitorial duties, etc. would continue on a race to the bottom.
The problem is not the companies but the fact that humans keep populating the planet.
Especially the uneducated so you have a huge competition of unskilled people.

The reality is we are protecting a huge bunch of people based on where they were born.
It isn't Darwinism and ultimately just hurts progress of humanity in the long run.

But hey, those people make up the majority of voters in every country, so they have literally no incentive to want to change those laws.

In nature, the way those things would be balanced is death and increased competition to have more children
But we put such a high price on being able to decide as an individual to have children, and in fact incentivising it, both in legislation and popular culture.
At some point it is going to come crashing down.
Either as a mass revolt or war, it has to happen.
You can't simply keep adding more humans and hope for the best
 

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Preventing foreigners from getting work, is in my opinion, one of the least capitalist social constructs ever created
you can add basically ANY protectionist policy from governments to that list:
- import duties
- tax incentives
- BBBEE
- forex controls
- etc
 

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we're so screwed that whenever the state does something quickly (like approving a visa) it is an indication of corruption at play rather than efficiency

FML

We are screwed but it wont be surprising in the slightest if Russia under Putin has higher levels of corruption.
 
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