Former US vice president Joe Biden says white people 'can never fully understand' racism during visit to black church

[rambo919]

Yeah, they changed the meaning of racism to sell dictionaries....

It's called being in business to make money..... unpopular definitions lead to less sales.

 

[Cray]

It's called being in business to make money.....

This reminds me of the Monty Python sketch where the guy won't buy the British bird book because of it having certain birds he doesn't like....except your theory is even more silly.

 

[rambo919]

This reminds me of the Monty Python sketch where the guy won't buy the British bird book because of it having certain birds he doesn't like....except your theory is even more silly.

Just because it seems silly to you does not mean it does not happen. Many current dictionaries have nonsense terms in them because they are in popular use..... does not mean the terms have actual merit however.

 

[Cray]

Just because it seems silly to you does not mean it does not happen. Many current dictionaries have nonsense terms in them because they are in popular use..... does not mean the terms have actual merit however.

Isn't that how language and communication works...?

 

[rambo919]

Isn't that how language and communication works...?

No it's one of the ways it works.... the technical term when it is with intent being semantic warfare. It has been used on and since the beginning of civilization and recently (relatively) started in earnest with the marxists in order to subversively reprogram societal thinking.

The other common way is using words with their actual meanings instead of their popular ones.

 

[Vrotappel]

They are linked though, do you think attitudes to black people in the South magically changed when they lost the civil war? Or do you think the continued racism of the South in the decades after was informed by the attitudes that thought that black people were less than human and deserved to be slaves? How can any white person justify owning slaves without being a racist? Slavery is one of the effects of racism...

"Black people are inferior/sub-human therefore I should be able to own them and profit off them"

When slavery ended the racism manifested itself in other ways..

Non-of those would have come about if white people in the South thought that black people were no different to white people.

White people were also slaves.

 

[Vrotappel]

How many black people where lynched by the KKK 100 years after slavery ended? But yeah the end of slavery ended all racism

How many white people were killed by black people this year?

 

[Cray]

White people were also slaves.

I acknowledged that slavery wasn't only aimed at black people later in the thread, however,there there weren't any white slaves in the US as far as I know...

 

[Cray]

How many white people were killed by black people this year?

In the US, no clue...

 

[Temujin]

I acknowledged that slavery wasn't only aimed at black people later in the thread, however,there there weren't any white slaves in the US as far as I know...

Indentured servitude
Main articles: Indentured servitude and Irish indentured servants

In the modern era, many whites in England, Ireland and British North America were indentured servants, a form of slavery now banned by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Between 50 and 67 percent of white immigrants to the American colonies, from the 1630s and American Revolution, had traveled under indenture.[49]

White slave traffic
Main article: International Agreement for the suppression of the White Slave Traffic

See also: History of sexual slavery in the United States § White slavery

The International Agreement for the suppression of the White Slave Traffic is a series of anti–human trafficking treaties, the first of which was first negotiated in Paris in 1904. It was one of the first multilateral treaties to address issues of slavery and human trafficking. The Slavery, Servitude, Forced Labour and Similar Institutions and Practices Convention of 1926 and the International Convention for the Suppression of the Traffic in Women of Full Age of 1933 are similar documents.

White Slave Traffic Act of 1910
Main article: Mann Act

To battle sex trafficking in the United States, in 1910 the US Congress passed the White Slave Traffic Act (better known as the Mann Act), which made it a felony to transport women across state borders for the purpose of "prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose." As more women were being trafficked from foreign countries, the US began passing immigration acts to curtail aliens from entering the country such as the Emergency Quota Act of 1921 and the Immigration Act of 1924. Following the banning of immigrants during the 1920s, human trafficking was not considered a major issue until the 1990s.[50][51]

White slavery - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Cray]

Indentured servitude
Main articles: Indentured servitude and Irish indentured servants

In the modern era, many whites in England, Ireland and British North America were indentured servants, a form of slavery now banned by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Between 50 and 67 percent of white immigrants to the American colonies, from the 1630s and American Revolution, had traveled under indenture.[49]

British North America being the key word there, was any of that white slave labour legal after the United States became an independant country?

 

[Flanders]

Russia collusion? More like DNC collusion.

It's clear that the US is a one-party state, people.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

British North America being the key word there, was any of that white slave labour legal after the United States became an independant country?

How is that key? You're throwing up arbitrary complaints.

 

[Cray]

How is that key? You're throwing up arbitrary complaints.

Am sure you regard the decleration of independance as arbitrary but most people consider it pretty important. It's key because it goes to the fact that the US, for all the talk about equality, initially regarded blacks as inferior...

The declaration of independence said the following...

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed "

Perhaps they should have added in "(Except blacks)".

If you want to argue that the British Empire was vile for the practice of indentured servitude there will be no complaint from me, but white servants were treated far better than black slaves in the colonies..

https://www.evblog.virginiahumanities.org/2018/06/different-but-how-different/

The 1705 slave law in Virginia made it illegal to “whip a christian white servant naked, without an order from a justice of the peace

No such law protected black bodies. In fact, the same law state that should “any slave resist his master … correcting such slave, and shall happen to be killed in such correction, it shall not be accounted felony.” This was a license to kill. And of course even if said slave were not dead, he or she could not sue because he or she was not legally allowed to provide testimony in court.

Not to mention that indentured servitude was not permanent while the children of black slaves became the property of their "master". End of the day indentured servitude was nowhere near as bad as slavery and it ended when the US became an independent country.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Am sure you regard the decleration of independance as arbitrary but most people consider it pretty important. It's key because it goes to the fact that the US, for all the talk about equality, initially regarded blacks as inferior...

The declaration of independence said the following...

Oh, okay; I thought maybe you had an issue with slavery because of the real consequences suffered by the descendants of slaves, but I see actually you're just here to moan and gripe because it serves your political platform.

 

[Cray]

Oh, okay; I thought maybe you had an issue with slavery because of the real consequences suffered by the descendants of slaves, but I see actually you're just here to moan and gripe because it serves your political platform.

Troll elsewhere Xarog.

 

[rambo919]

The problem is that while you have demonstrated that black slaves (of whatever legal designation) were treated worse than white slaves..... you have failed to show how racism and slavery is inexplicably linked. You also ignore that "native americans" owned slaves of all races, so did arabs in the middle east, chinese in asia and blacks in africa. Racism of the racial superiority type has only ever been a requirement for slavery in white spheres of influence.... the rest did not care.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Troll elsewhere Xarog.

Nah, your agenda is pretty clear cut, so it might as well be called out for what it is.

You can't just decide for words to mean what you want them to mean though... The generally accepted definition regardless of liberal or conservative is ..

I checked a few sources and they are all say much the same thing...

The idea that this is some kind of new liberal definition is a little bit silly...

Do you have a reputable source that reflects your definition?

And just btw, prejudice isn't prejudice if it turns out the judgement is true. For example, noticing that the population groups have different average IQ scores and therefore that certain populations will perform better than other populations in a competitive setting does not make one racist, even though technically it works out to a belief that one racial group is superior to another.

 

[rambo919]

And just btw, prejudice isn't prejudice if it turns out the judgement is true. For example, noticing that the population groups have different average IQ scores and therefore that certain populations will perform better than other populations in a competitive setting does not make one racist, even though technically it works out to a belief that one racial group is superior to another.

The problem there is the ethno-centric thinking that leads to the wrong conclusions as to why the differences exist and the assumption that they are permanent.

 

[neoprema]

Go back to your hole Biden.