Four farmers accused in the murder of Coka siblings

Sollie

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Dit wys ook hoe die eerste oorledene in ʼn konfrontasie met sy broer, wat in dié stadium op die plaas gewerk het, betrokke raak.

Die video bied egter geen beeldmateriaal van die gebeure tydens die skietery nie.

Loosely translated:
It shows how the first deceased gets into a confrontation with his brother which was working on the far at that stage.

The video however does not show what happened during the shooting.

This is more suggesting that the initial reports of the confrontation and one brother shooting the other, well before this footage was known about, may well be true.
 

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Why is the MEC campaigning??? Justice must prevail... uhm, the court is determining those merits Mr Mpumalanga MEC.
 

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If he is so concerned, then he should be reminded of the news story of the guy that was shot close range with a rubber bullet and died.

Seriously, instead of throwing smoke bombs, just take a giant ass tv and show people what it looks like to be shot by a rubber bullet. Everybody is a protestor until **** gets real.

It is the same MEC who made this call,


MEC calls for ANC to ‘confiscate’ farms of farmers violating human rights​

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here is the thing, he made promises to the community and will need to deliver.

It is never the public's task to establish the merits. This is the reason why we entered Constitutional Supremacy.
 

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The MEC needs to sit the fsck down and stop trying to interfere in judicial process.

Understandably a mother lost her two children, it is an impact on their lives that I can sympathise with. There are many things which cannot easily be accepted.

Now the above is being politicised and various organisations and groups are abusing the above to push their own agendas.

Justice must prevail, most reasonable people would agree, but we cannot punish the innocent.

All this again arises due to state neglect. This is practically similar to what have happened at Senekal though it didn't share the same circumstances.

Here is why the MEC is making his voice heard,


Minister Didiza reassures Mpumalanga farmers ‘there will not be eviction’ amid tensions​


Farmers in Mpumalanga have appealed to the Agriculture, Land Reform and Rural Development Department to come up with ways of reducing tensions on farms. They made the appeal during a meeting between Minister Thoko Didiza and representatives of their unions in Ermelo.

The aim of the meeting was to discuss issues related to state-owned land leased to farmers. Apparently, some farmers in Mpumalanga received letters informing them that they would be evicted from state farms.

The farmers in question claim that this happened after they refused to pay R250 000 to certain officials in order for their lease contracts to be renewed.

The farmers have urged Minister Didiza to take action against officials accused of corruption. She in turn has assured them that they will not be evicted from the farms.

“There is not going to be any eviction and in any way of actions process in terms of state land, you’ll have to involve the Minister. And in this incident, those letters were not even given out with authorisation of the Minister. So we agreed that there is not going to be any eviction of the farmers we are created in two weeks time the team from the property unit in the Department of Agriculture will come down and all those farmers who have got issues around their leases we’ll meet at the department so that those issues are resolved.”

The meeting comes at a time when tensions continue to rise between farm owners, dwellers and farm workers.

This now incident came as a blessing, and the ANC is capitalising on it to make another matter receive less attention. BTW, those lessees are black.
 

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Anyone knows what happened in the proceedings today?

The Citizen posted an article,


but not quite about this case.
It's really sad how low newspapers have sunk to spread propoganda.

I have yet to meet a farmer with the mentality as described in that article.

I'm not saying it never happenes, sure you will get a rotten apple in few boxes but the way they paint the picture is that every white farmer out there is an evil white man oppressing black people, killing their livestock, physically abusing them and somehow getting away with it.

these type of articles undermine all the good work done on a daily basis by the majority of farmers out there. The only way a farmer can be successful is too have a good healthy mutually respectful relationship with their workers. The workers makes or breaks a farming operation.
 

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Anyone knows what the gist is within this article, I don't subscribe to this service,


it is obvious to be a point argued by the prosecution, but I want to know what is being argued? I doubt the investigator would have made that claim without forensic evidence.
 

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Can’t find any updates on any media but interestingly I found this which was reported a year ago:


Can’t find any evidence of the eff and ancwl rioting at this very sad event also and destroying state property.

Also seems that some MYBB members became VERY quiet seeing that this mainstream media narrative does not suite them anymore.
 

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Suspects accused of killing the Coka brothers to know their fate on Friday​


The five suspects accused of killing the Coka brothers at the Pampoenkraal farm in Piet Retief, Mpumalanga will know their fate on Friday. This after the Piet Retief Magistrate’s Court postponed their bail application.

Daniel Malan, Cornelius Greyling, Othard Klingberg, Michael Sternberg and Zenzele Yende were arrested a few weeks ago following the death of Amos and Zenzele Coka.

The defence has urged the Piet Retief Magistrate’s Court to release the suspects on bail. They allege that the state witnesses were dishonest when giving statements to the police.

The defence also claim that the alleged shooting incident took place because there was a confrontation between two groups of people. They also allege that one of the suspects and another farmer were assaulted shortly before the fatal shooting.

The court also heard that the fifth suspect, Zenzele Yende played a role in holding captive one of the people who were apparently on the farm to seek employment.

On the day of the incident, it is alleged that a group of seasonal farm workers went to the farm to ask the owner as to why they had not been hired this year. According to the police, one of the deceased was on the farm to rescue the person who was allegedly held captive.

The second deceased was an employee at the farm.

The investigating officer, Vukile Nhlapho told the court that Yende could be involved in the alleged shooting incident because he was in possession of a firearm on the day he attempted to evade arrest.

Nhlapho also says police found ammunition and cable ties in Yende’s house. However, Nhlapho says at this stage there is no evidence that Yende also fired shots.

The state then argued that Yende and the other suspects are accused of murder because they acted in common purpose. The state is also concerned about the authenticity of a video that was provided by the defence.

State Prosecutor, Robert Malokoane says the video only shows selective scenes.

Malokoane also dismissed claims made by the defence that one of the suspects who fired shots was disoriented when the incident occurred.

He also dismissed an allegation that one of the deceased grabbed a firearm from one of the farmers and started shooting. The Piet Retief Magistrate’s Court is expected to hand down the bail judgement on Friday.
 

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There’s blood in that farm and it needs justice, cop tells bail hearing​

'Coka brothers not only ones killed at the farm'​


The investigating officer in the Coka brothers' murder case has told the Piet Retief magistrate's court that another double murder happened at the same farm where the siblings were killed.

W/O Vukile Nhlapho continued with her testimony in the bail application of the five accused yesterday, saying the other murders were committed at the farm Bampoen in Piet Retief, Mpumalanga, in August...

Timeslive published more,


The officer said three victims were allegedly beaten up, leading to the death of two of them. The other one played dead and lived to tell the tale. “I want this court to know that there’s blood in that farm and it needs justice,” said Nhlapho.
 

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The SABC article is cherry-picking on the details, and I don't know why the investigator is now swinging in with another alleged incident because sure this matter would have been in the court by now?

Yende made a civilian arrest, and was waiting on the police to take the person into custody, but the police took their time getting there, a whole 2 hours, in which time the shooting incident occurred. The man the police is stating as being held captive was the man who assaulted another person into being hospitalised which is being ignored by both the police and the prosecution.

As seen in another article, the prosecution is opposing everything and will be sticking with common cause and premeditated murder.
 

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The SABC article is cherry-picking on the details, and I don't know why the investigator is now swinging in with another alleged incident because sure this matter would have been in the court by now?

Yende made a civilian arrest, and was waiting on the police to take the person into custody, but the police took their time getting there, a whole 2 hours, in which time the shooting incident occurred. The man the police is stating as being held captive was the man who assaulted another person into being hospitalised which is being ignored by both the police and the prosecution.

As seen in another article, the prosecution is opposing everything and will be sticking with common cause and premeditated murder.

Of course they would....
 
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