FPB flexes "Censorship Bill" and serves ISPs with ultimatum

FaSMaN

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In a nutshell nothing will come from this, untill a website says something the government doesn't like then FPB can then apply pressure to the ISP/Host and take the site down ... at least thats what they think will happen... now is a good time to host internationally.

Do you really think this is to protect the little children? ROFL .... never was and never will be.
 

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Complaints against prohibited content. – (1) Where any person which offers a service online is aware that their service is being used to host or distribute unclassified content, prohibited content, or potential prohibited content, such service indicate within 90 (ninety) days from publication of this Notice –

(a) the referrals made to the FPB where the person has identified content which has not been submitted for examination and classification as required in terms of sections 16, 18, 18C or 18D of the Act

So basically anything on any streaming service that doesn't have to comply with SA's laws? They going to start forcing ISPs to block access to YouTube/Udemy/Twitch/Reddit/Facebook/any platform that has media on it that hasn't been classified by the FPB?

I've pointed this out before, but there are other laws in this new system that are just insane. I could render 10 hour videos of absolute garbage and send it through to the FPB and they'd be forced to review it at a massive cost.
 

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Am also curious if ISPs are going to get together and mount a legal challenge to this nonsense, and also curious to know why they haven't done so already? I know there was some minor pushback from individual lawyers, but now that this affects their bottom line what is going to happen?

Also, none of the local YouTube channels I follow have complied with the FPBs laws because of how ridiculous they are, so what's next?
 

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In a nutshell nothing will come from this, untill a website says something the government doesn't like then FPB can then apply pressure to the ISP/Host and take the site down ... at least thats what they think will happen... now is a good time to host internationally.

This seems very much like the other "hate speech" laws the government enacted recently. 99% chance nothing will happen until something so horrendous occurs that will force the government to act and then they can lean on these laws, just like in the July riots.
 

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This seems very much like the other "hate speech" laws the government enacted recently. 99% chance nothing will happen until something so horrendous occurs that will force the government to act and then they can lean on these laws, just like in the July riots.
They will use the laws as and when it suits them. As has been observed before, the ANC likes to install things and use them later. Similar to the way they did stuff back in the apartheid era. Plant the bombs and trigger them later, like, on a Sunday morning.

However these developments are steps to full Chinese-style censorship in SA, or so the ANC thinks. The obvious advantage to the tech-savvy internet user is that the ANC are not the sharpest tools in the shed,and circumvention will be considerably easier than in China.
 

Willie Trombone

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Found the notice and updated the article with some ridiculous asks:

Service providers are required to report how they have:
  • Prominently displayed reasonable safety messages in a language that will be clearly understood by children, on all advertisements for a child-oriented service, as well as in the medium used to access such child-oriented service including, where appropriate, chatroom safety messages for chatrooms or similar contact services.
  • Provided a mechanism to enable children to report suspicious behaviour by any person in a chatroom to the service or access provider.
Chatroom
Clearly they're out of touch.
 

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I dont do much online these days, but screw them. It seems I have to get a VPN again.
 

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Note that they only want the ISPs to report on their efforts to do these things. If I were an ISP, my report would be quite simple: "Unfortunately, none of the proposed measures are possible in your wildest imagination".

How can an ISP provide warning messages on every single advert that a child might see? How could an ISP somehow add a reporting button to every single online social media, chatroom, forum, etc etc??

As someone said, this is either formulated by desperately stupid people, or deliberately malicious people who want to shut down the internet in South Africa (or a combination of both).
 

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the quicker we get these anc clowns out of power the better, a complete overhaul is needed in all state institutions and sanity needs to prevail
 

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It would help if the FPB would set up an internet service provider (or even a VPN service) that demonstrates how they would like to implement these crazy "features". These ideas might be possible for a single site owner, but they are not possible for ISPs in any way.
 
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