FPB flexes "Censorship Bill" and serves ISPs with ultimatum

[MrGray]

It would help if the FPB would set up an internet service provider (or even a VPN service) that demonstrates how they would like to implement these crazy "features". These ideas might be possible for a single site owner, but they are not possible for ISPs in any way.

They'll just create a service where everything is blocked except for a handful of whitelisted sites that have the required buttons and warnings...

 

[Peon]

Nah these clowns testing the waters and measuring the push-back. Keenly observed Twitter and the like need to be fixed for anti gov infomation.

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

How are the ISP's supposed to police the entire Internet???

They cannot, but government has made it their problem. Mission impossible

 

[Sapphiron]

Found the notice and updated the article with some ridiculous asks:

Service providers are required to report how they have:

• Provided a mechanism to enable children to report suspicious behaviour by any person in a chatroom to the service or access provider.

I would like to report a suspicious behaviour by the petulant childish leadership at the FPB.

 

[RedViking]

Lol, anyone with a Mecer Inverter.

A bit of smoke has never killed anyone.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Nah these clowns testing the waters and measuring the push-back. Keenly observed Twitter and the like need to be fixed for anti gov infomation.

The push-back should have happened during the commentary process. You need to ask whether public process was taken under consideration, ignored or whether the public had any interest? This being promulgated, push-back is only likely to happen in the courts.

 

[zolly]

You need to ask whether public process was taken under consideration, ignored or whether the public had any interest?

It was mostly ignored.

‘Internet Censorship Act’ a legal instrument of suffocation, says DA

The official opposition commits to fight the “unfortunate piece of legislation”, saying it infringes on the constitutional right to freedom of expression.

www.itweb.co.za

 

[Fulcrum29]

It was mostly ignored.

‘Internet Censorship Act’ a legal instrument of suffocation, says DA

The official opposition commits to fight the “unfortunate piece of legislation”, saying it infringes on the constitutional right to freedom of expression.

www.itweb.co.za

It is not that they ignore public commentary, they only take commentary which serves the 'common purpose' under consideration. Lawmakers have long done this, cherry-picking the interest within the public or otherwise creating a public interest where there isn’t any. Not unique to us, but it is very much abused by us. Not so much democracy as people believe they have.

 

[Fulcrum29]

As I suspected in the other thread,

“Based on the reports we receive, the FPB shall determine whether to make this a compulsory reporting requirement every quarter,” he said.

 

[Fulcrum29]

There is a proposition to harden it too,

“Concurrent to this notice, we will also be analysing the various co-regulatory industry codes and working with co-regulators to ensure alignment with the amendment Act and its regulations.”

who would include the co-regulators?

 

[Magnum]

Lol, anyone with a Mecer Inverter.

A bit of smoke has never killed anyone.

Alot can really stink up the place though.

 

[Nerfherder]

So basically anything on any streaming service that doesn't have to comply with SA's laws? They going to start forcing ISPs to block access to YouTube/Udemy/Twitch/Reddit/Facebook/any platform that has media on it that hasn't been classified by the FPB?

I've pointed this out before, but there are other laws in this new system that are just insane. I could render 10 hour videos of absolute garbage and send it through to the FPB and they'd be forced to review it at a massive cost.

Its pretty obvious we should be flooding them with content to review.

 

[justplain]

here's an idea.
The ISP's can ignore the FPB and stage a little rebellion. It's high time businesses or groups of business get together and collectively ignore ridiculous legislation.
Stick it to them I say!!! Arrrgggggggg!

 

[Lucas Buck]

How are the ISP's supposed to police the entire Internet???

and why should they.

 

[sdrawk]

here's an idea.
The ISP's can ignore the FPB and stage a little rebellion. It's high time businesses or groups of business get together and collectively ignore ridiculous legislation.
Stick it to them I say!!! Arrrgggggggg!

And if that doesn't work -- VPN!

 

[Jan]

The push-back should have happened during the commentary process.

There was robust debate on this for years.

Based on what we ended up with, the feedback was completely dismissed. Tempting to speculate on why, but I'll refrain for now.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

Am also curious if ISPs are going to get together and mount a legal challenge to this nonsense, and also curious to know why they haven't done so already? I know there was some minor pushback from individual lawyers, but now that this affects their bottom line what is going to happen?

Also, none of the local YouTube channels I follow have complied with the FPBs laws because of how ridiculous they are, so what's next?

Why waste money on a legal challenge on something that can't be enforced...

 

[rvZA]

There was robust debate on this for years.

Based on what we ended up with, the feedback was completely dismissed. Tempting to speculate on why, but I'll refrain for now.

Lol

Best is to say nothing at all

 

[rvZA]

Am also curious if ISPs are going to get together and mount a legal challenge to this nonsense, and also curious to know why they haven't done so already? I know there was some minor pushback from individual lawyers, but now that this affects their bottom line what is going to happen?

Also, none of the local YouTube channels I follow have complied with the FPBs laws because of how ridiculous they are, so what's next?

There is nothing ISPs can do. They are bound by laws.

Us public, on the other hand, can make it impossible for the government to govern or enforce. A few software installs and moving hosting abroad and you are done. The government does not have the skills or knowledge to either investigate, enforce or monitor anything. They will receive encrypted traffic logs from ISPs and toss it away into their recycle bins. Unfortunately for the ANC and SARS, more money will leave the borders when we start paying overseas subs.

 

[sdrawk]

Why waste money on a legal challenge on something that can't be enforced...

I don't think even China has enough people to watch every video on YouTube to give it a sticker.
Imagine if they had to do that for every TikTok and reddit post too