Free the Western Cape

Cius

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The practicalities of the WC leaving South Africa are immense:

1) How would you control the WC border? The border runs through some of the most remote desolate parts of the country. It would be close to impossible to police it.
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Far less remote than most borders in Africa (think of DRC, or Chad), and far easier to police too.

2) How would you decide who gets to live and be a citizen of this new country? People who were born there? What about people who've lived in the WC their whole lives but just happened to have been born in another province?What about families who would be torn apart? For reference look up the partition of India and Pakistan and the millions of peoples lives who were ruined. What about people who don't want to be a part of this new country? Will they be forced to leave?
That would be negotiated I guess, but I am guessing if the WC goes it would be when a full on race war is brewing post an almost complete collapse of the economy. Hence the criteria will be all races currently targeted by the ANC for extermination/theft of everything welcome. Individual black African's can also apply but only the best and those that are non-racial will be accepted. People who dissent will be expelled to the North if African, or arrested otherwise.
3) International recognition - without the support of the rest of the world the new country will not be recognised, and anybody who is a citizen of this new country would find it very hard to travel internationally.
The international community will be welcoming it post the many atrocities and crap that has gone down by the point such a split would happen. African governments would be against it, but the EU, and western world will back it. Legally the Cape can claim none of the Nguni tribes where in the Western Cape by the time white people settled it hence other than the San no other African tribe can lay claim to it better than white and coloured people can. It will fly if we are Zim 2.0.
4) Economically it would be a minefield to separate the WC economy from the rest of South Africa. A new central bank and currency would have to be established. What would happen to people's savings, home loans, vehicle finance, pensions, retirement annuities, shares, unit trusts, etc that would still be held in banks and institutions that would be in the remainder of SA?
At the point the WC could split there would be little left of that nature to sort out. Hyperinflation would have already taken most of it away and hence it would be immaterial.
 

Sollie

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You do realise you'd have to dig all the way down to sea level for the ocean to fill up that moat don't you? And that the majority of the WC border is damn near a kilometre above sea level?

Not to mention all the rivers you'd be cutting off and the ecological damage from introducing saltwater into ecosystems that wouldn't otherwise encounter it.
Whooosh :ROFL::laugh::ROFL:

I don't think that's really an issue. The army doesn't have the manpower to prevent a determined breakaway. Hell, they couldn't even invade Lesotho in 1998 when they were much more powerful than they currently are.
But the PWC has!
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Vrotappel

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If that is what they want, they should completely embrace it, they just mustn't lie about it or appeal to another country to sort out their problems as that site is doing. They should also start their own town, not kick out everyone they don't like where they are now
Why are you so scared of international support?
 

rambo919

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One thing people forget.... once the bullets start flying so do the rules.

As soon as the SA economy fails which is probably before the next election all bets are off.
 

NarrowBandFtw

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You do realise you'd have to dig all the way down to sea level for the ocean to fill up that moat don't you? And that the majority of the WC border is damn near a kilometre above sea level?
TNT mofo, lots of TNT!

Not to mention all the rivers you'd be cutting off and the ecological damage from introducing saltwater into ecosystems that wouldn't otherwise encounter it.
If our epic croc and great white infested moat keeps the riffraff out it'll all be worth it!
 

STS

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Please quote where it mentions what you said? I don't see it.
Hey bro, here is what I read earlier


The United Liberty Alliance (ULA) is a civil rights movement focussed on the self-determination of the oppressed minorities in Southern Africa. These minorities include the descendants of:

  • The Khoi and San, the aboriginal peoples of Southern Africa; and
  • People from Continental Europe, the British Isles and even North America who settled in Southern Africa from as early as 1652; and
  • Slaves and indentured individuals brought to Southern Africa before 1900, primarily from Malaysia, India and Indonesia.
The ULA is an umbrella body that unifies a multitude of minority-led organisations through the common goal of independence. The ULA itself does not have any members, instead relying on the membership of its affiliate organisations.
As in regards to the removal

The borders of the region(s) that will obtain independence will be determined by a democratic process, where a region will become independent if the majority of its residents has chosen independence. The various regions that have chosen independence will become states that form part of a new independent federation or confederation.
These two are incompatible with one another, not to mention how they advertise their message on facebook, twitter, instagram, etc

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ɹǝuuᴉM

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This is no different to any wealthy region of any country wanting to secede.

The prospect of pulling it off must be somewhere close to zero.
But why is the Western Cape more wealthy than the rest? This is the question. Transkei has some of the most fertile ground yet the region is poor.
 

Corelli

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The WC has huge ports and container terminals already. We also house the SA navy. And the gangs would fight for independence even the army cant stop them.

Financial services and tourism is the biggest drivers. And in IT WC is big. Think Amazon Data centres same with FB and google.

Lastly WC have most of the IPP and they have the only nuclear station. Which can be easily expanded. Most businesses are even becoming efficient and recycling water, let alone solar is booming here. Honestly the DA has been giving WC more independence and working on getting the WC completely off Eskom. Have you seen the mega amount of windfarms in the WC.

Even the public healthcare is superior there. By far.

So whats stopping them is the only real question. You also forgot that the WC invaded the other provinces to make SA. If they didnt then there wldnt be a SA
 

Corelli

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All Cape Townians are immigrants. No one really claims to be first. So everyone works together. Its also has the most hnw indiviuals in summertime. And their finance industry is flush with cash
 
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