Gay marriage. Do the surnames change?

Aghori

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Whats does the STS stand for in your name btw, out of curiousitys sake?
 

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Sweet man! So when you take him home he gets fed curry and when he takes you home you get fed Bobotie! What else is there to life I ask you? hehe

9 years....wow....thumbs up Shauny. May there be many more! *wink*

12 years now :D
 

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12 years now :D

I give it one more year max. It is unnatural for guys to be together so long. There is some kind of universal mathematical law that states that gays can only be together for a maximum of 10 years. You guys are over due to go super nova and implode and creat a super massive black hole!




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So encouraging to see the good vibe in this thread. A family member of mine has been with his partner for 25 years - they really are soul mates.

I've been with my partner for 3 years now and had such a ball. Must be honest though (and no offense to those married), I don't really see the purpose of hetero-normative marriage aside from some of the technical/financial aspects. My commitment to him is just the same whether we've signed a contract or not; to me personally the true and honest commitment is more important.
 

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So encouraging to see the good vibe in this thread. A family member of mine has been with his partner for 25 years - they really are soul mates.

I've been with my partner for 3 years now and had such a ball. Must be honest though (and no offense to those married), I don't really see the purpose of hetero-normative marriage aside from some of the technical/financial aspects. My commitment to him is just the same whether we've signed a contract or not; to me personally the true and honest commitment is more important.

For me personally it is also the whole romantic aspect of it. The idea of sharing such a special day with your frienda family would mean so much to me. I guess i am just a die hard romantic.

It should not mean that much when looked at a pure logical and legal eye, but for me as a person it would be so much more thaan that. I cant exolain it. Not sure if it can be. I guess some are just more sentimental amd softies than others :)

I do one day want my first damce with my husband on the dance floor with close friends and family sharing it with me. I do want my husband tohear me promise to cherish him in front of the most importnat people in my life......my family.

But also importantly.....not everyone is the same....and not everyone needs or craves the same thing :).

I am watching you marine1 :)
 
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NativePaul

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For the googely challenged.

Thanks, unfortunately Google isn't the challenge, the results are. The home affairs and NYC Consulate websites don't mention the need for a new birth certificate and what the implications of that are. They also don't say how long a name-change can take. That's why I'm looking for a human who has actually been through the process. Home affairs staff have also been spectacularly unhelpful by contradicting each other.

Through all my research, it looks like the Civil Union Act doesn't make it any easier for heterosexual men to be in a marriage that respects gender equality.

If anyone else is interested, here's a great student essay that explains the challenges with surname changes and the law.
Section 13 of the Civil Union Act, Absurdity and Gender. Discrimination in the Legal Consequences of Marriage.

Sorry for taking this discussion off topic!
I am proud to come from a country where gay marriage is allowed. Although there's obviously still plenty of work to be done before everyone is treated equally by the law.
 

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So encouraging to see the good vibe in this thread. A family member of mine has been with his partner for 25 years - they really are soul mates.

I've been with my partner for 3 years now and had such a ball. Must be honest though (and no offense to those married), I don't really see the purpose of hetero-normative marriage aside from some of the technical/financial aspects. My commitment to him is just the same whether we've signed a contract or not; to me personally the true and honest commitment is more important.

The biggest mistake that most couples make is believing that marriage will "cement" their relationship. If the spark wasn't there to start with, it's not going to be there after throwing a ****ton of money and a ring at it.

What a marriage is in truth, is essentially all the things you mentioned: a contract that grants greater rights, responsibilities, protection and respect in the eyes of the government.

What a marriage is as an ideal: love, commitment, honour, trust and is a symbolic expression of that bond.

My husband took my surname :p

Through all my research, it looks like the Civil Union Act doesn't make it any easier for heterosexual men to be in a marriage that respects gender equality.

If anyone else is interested, here's a great student essay that explains the challenges with surname changes and the law.
Section 13 of the Civil Union Act, Absurdity and Gender. Discrimination in the Legal Consequences of Marriage.

Sorry for taking this discussion off topic!
I am proud to come from a country where gay marriage is allowed. Although there's obviously still plenty of work to be done before everyone is treated equally by the law.

I have to add to this... We are afforded a number of rights in South Africa, but under the "Civil Union Act" we are still treated as "different but equal."

In Sweden my marriage is precisely the same as anyone else's. Marriage is genderless here and I believe that's the best way to do it.
 

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I give it one more year max. It is unnatural for guys to be together so long. There is some kind of universal mathematical law that states that gays can only be together for a maximum of 10 years. You guys are over due to go super nova and implode and creat a super massive black hole!




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Lol. I know three different couples who have been together in excess of thirty years.
 

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His dad had already passed away when he came out let alone married a charo lol. Doubt he would have been impressed.

When he took me home I was the first Indian boytjie he had brought home to introduce to his family lol. They were all pretty cool. His mum wasn't impressed initially especially considering she had like his previous white boyfriend quite a lot. But she eventually got over her initial reservations.

Nine years down the line she thinks I am the cat's whiskers and we have an awesome relationship :D

The fact that my mum feels the same way about him is a huge plus in our relationship :cool:

WTF thought you were 22 or something.
 

ShaunSA

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So encouraging to see the good vibe in this thread. A family member of mine has been with his partner for 25 years - they really are soul mates.

I've been with my partner for 3 years now and had such a ball. Must be honest though (and no offense to those married), I don't really see the purpose of hetero-normative marriage aside from some of the technical/financial aspects. My commitment to him is just the same whether we've signed a contract or not; to me personally the true and honest commitment is more important.

We did it for the legal/financial reasons otherwise we wouldn't have bothered tbh. A piece of paper doesn't make a relationship. Something a lot of heterosexual couples need to realise.

WTF thought you were 22 or something.

You'd need a add a good few years to that :D
 
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