Gay marriages are Un-African!

[killadoob]

have u guys noticed how many gay men there are its scary

its like some of them are just being gay because its the in thing at the moment

personally i think its very very wrong and unnatural in so many ways but so is alot of things in life but yea hahaha

my one gay friend said to me, your soul mate doesnt have to be a lady it could be a guy i was like hell no, not in this life time

must be strange to attracted to another man whahahaha

 

[Xarog]

Noone is asking you to marry someone from the same sex.. I dont know wh poeople make such a big fuss about stuff like this....whether we should allow gay marriages, whether abortion should be aloowed...etc..etc...at the end of the day i have my viwe, and otehr have theirs...if someone else wants to get an abortion or marry someone from teh same sex...let them...nobody is asking you to have an abortion or to marry a dude or chick or whatever

The issue of gay marriage in Canada has come and gone. Last week it was finally put to rest when a vote in parliament put the issue out of it's misery.

Life goes on here in Canada as if nothing happened after all the fuss and bother of debating the issue.

I personally do not agree with the issue but have come to the conclusion that people want to do anything. If they want to do drugs, get drunk, molest children, rape, murder, lie, cheat and steal the it's their choice. If they want to have sex with animals then again it is their decision. They, and the people affected by their choices, have to deal with the net result in their lives.

Ain't freedom to choose great?

Both of you are making a mistake here. There's a difference between doing something that someone else thinks is wrong (gay marriage, drugs, naaing an animal corpse), and doing something which actually causes harm to an innocent party (rape, abortion, child molestation, murder, theft).

Laws against the first are ultimately counter-productive and don't really serve a purpose. Laws against the second protects the wellbeing of the community as a whole.

 

[Nick333]

What I want to know is why everyone insists Christian ministers should perform gay marriages. I mean... if you think Christians are bigots for not wanting to marry you, then why do you want a Christian marriage?

The issues got nothing to do with Christian ministers being forced to perform gay marriages. The state can't legislate religious practice ffs. Tell you what, anybody tries forcing your minister to preform a gay marriage you come tell me and you will have at least one liberal who will be very angry about it.

There are plenty of ministers willing to marry gay couples anyway.

 

[Nick333]

It is quite interesting but in this way the constitution protect the minister being forced into something he does not see right...

That's what the constitution is there for. It protects everybody's right to abstain from activities they find morally objectionable. I find it interesting that this is news to you.

 

[LoneGunman]

(side note of sanity)
killadoob - re 'scary how many gay men there are' -nope, its not scary, it's quite normal (as 'homosexuality' is found throughout the entire animal kingdom as well as the human species - despite many non scientific folks attempting to suggest otherwise. Its completely common to find male->male & female->female as well as the standard male->female linkups in almost every species' behaviour patterns).

Also, I forget the source, but a basic rule of thumb is that aproximately 1 in every 10 people are gay. (Either overt or remaining hidden) So we all know lots of gay people of both genders, in our friends and families, churches, and even on this forum, whether they admit it to themselves and us, or not.

Nothing scary about it, its no threat on any level (except to ones own ideas of personal sexuality) - there's always been gays, and always will be.

Worrying or stressing or having emotion about it is like, for instance, finding people with red hair 'scary'

 

[Debbie]

Cultural evolution happens... othewise we'd still be cavemen.

 

[Mr TB]

Question to Zarog

Both of you are making a mistake here. There's a difference between doing something that someone else thinks is wrong (gay marriage, drugs, naaing an animal corpse), and doing something which actually causes harm to an innocent party (rape, abortion, child molestation, murder, theft).

Laws against the first are ultimately counter-productive and don't really serve a purpose. Laws against the second protects the wellbeing of the community as a whole.

Your remark caught my and I assume your viewpoint then is than doing drugs,naaing,animal corpse and gay marriage does not cause harm to an innocent party, will that include parties in the future???

 

[LabAnimal]

its quite clear from some of the people's posts that we have a bunch of closet queens, as homophobes are truely a myth!.

 

[Debbie]

talk about a self hating neurotic psycho-sexual train wreck. Betcha he whips himself every time he comes with another man. Not a well adjusted puppy, thats for sure. He's clearly acting out his own neurosis, and pretending to be speaking on behalf of one or another community, in order to try and make his own self-disgust and inability to adjust to his personal sexual orientation, feel acceptable to himself.

Agree, though I would have put it 'nicer'

You have mentioned abortion, sex with animals, same sex marriages, fornication and I would say adultery. If we accept this as the norm what will the cost be to society. Not may be now but the one your childrens' grandchildren will have to live in... ...

Didn't the Romans allow all these sorts of things? Didn't they sort of rule half the earth as well? - legitimate questions

I personally do not agree with the issue but have come to the conclusion that people want to do anything. If they want to do drugs, get drunk, molest children, rape, murder, lie, cheat and steal the it's their choice. If they want to have sex with animals then again it is their decision. They, and the people affected by their choices, have to deal with the net result in their lives.

Ain't freedom to choose great?

Heck yes. Can't help but wonder whether some people want certain laws because in their minds this restricts their choices and thus it's easier. Too much choice is intellectually demanding.

Both of you are making a mistake here. There's a difference between doing something that someone else thinks is wrong (gay marriage, drugs, naaing an animal corpse), and doing something which actually causes harm to an innocent party (rape, abortion, child molestation, murder, theft).

Laws against the first are ultimately counter-productive and don't really serve a purpose. Laws against the second protects the wellbeing of the community as a whole.

Well said, but to futher- Problems arise when there is disagreement over whether an action should be considered as 'wrong but not harmful to others' or 'wrong and harmful to others'.

eg, I think it's disgusting to shag dead animals, but I don't think it affects me; alanf on the other had think that if others shag dead animals then this is harmful to the community as a whole.

 

[Highflyer_GP]

Noone is asking you to marry someone from the same sex.. I dont know wh poeople make such a big fuss about stuff like this....whether we should allow gay marriages, whether abortion should be aloowed...etc..etc...at the end of the day i have my viwe, and otehr have theirs...if someone else wants to get an abortion or marry someone from teh same sex...let them...nobody is asking you to have an abortion or to marry a dude or chick or whatever

Yeah that's my viewpoint as well. However some feel a need to impose their views on others.

Some people need to get a fscking life, nobody's forcing them into doing anything that they don't want to, so why do they feel the need to force others into doing something they don't?

 

[Mr TB]

Morality

That's what the constitution is there for. It protects everybody's right to abstain from activities they find morally objectionable. I find it interesting that this is news to you.

No sir prove must be provided for your moral objection. The focus of most talk was around Lev and Deut and misinterpretation abuse of the Bible by Christians. So it was easy to start believing preachers will only be forced by law to fulfill samesex marriages. Maybe it still will happen and those who don't agree will have to give up their licenses.

The route to go with a moral objection in this regard seem to be Gen 1:28

One thing also is true in our country, many wrong things was done in this land but since 1994 we started to ignore God and He will indeed ignore us. He does not need a single from us ... we need Him...

 

[Highflyer_GP]

No sir prove must be provided for your moral objection. The focus of most talk was around Lev and Deut and misinterpretation abuse of the Bible by Christians. So it was easy to start believing preachers will only be forced by law to fulfill samesex marriages. Maybe it still will happen and those who don't agree will have to give up their licenses.

The route to go with a moral objection in this regard seem to be Gen 1:28

One thing also is true in our country, many wrong things was done in this land but since 1994 we started to ignore God and He will indeed ignore us. He does not need a single from us ... we need Him...

Seriously wtf is with you and bible verses? Stop using it to justifying everything.

This is a social issue, not a religious one.

 

[Debbie]

(side note of sanity)
killadoob - re 'scary how many gay men there are' -nope, its not scary, it's quite normal (as 'homosexuality' is found throughout the entire animal kingdom as well as the human species - despite many non scientific folks attempting to suggest otherwise. Its completely common to find male->male & female->female as well as the standard male->female linkups in almost every species' behaviour patterns).

Also, I forget the source, but a basic rule of thumb is that aproximately 1 in every 10 people are gay. (Either overt or remaining hidden) So we all know lots of gay people of both genders, in our friends and families, churches, and even on this forum, whether they admit it to themselves and us, or not.

Nothing scary about it, its no threat on any level (except to ones own ideas of personal sexuality) - there's always been gays, and always will be.

Worrying or stressing or having emotion about it is like, for instance, finding people with red hair 'scary'

I very much agree LoneGuman. Some like to cultivate the idea that homosexuality is something 'new' - something unknown, something to be afraid of, something the effects of which we do not know. Puleeeeze. It's always been like this, just society goes through stages and cultures where openness about these things comes and goes, like fashion.

 

[Mr TB]

Its so funny that you guys keep on missing the point... There is 2 schools one in the centre of a black township and the other in the centre of a white township. The children in the black township are loaded into a bus driven to the centre of the white township and insisted to be schooled there. There is basically no children in the school in the black township.

Please do not think I am a racist, but the above is an excellent example of the misuse and abuse of rights obtained via what?...goverment law!!!

 

[Highflyer_GP]

They have a right to choose where they want to live or be schooled. There's no such thing as black or white "townships" anymore. Maybe the previously white schools had better facilities which they wish to make use of? Unless you see a problem with black kids making use of previously white schools?

 

[Debbie]

Its so funny that you guys keep on missing the point... There is 2 schools one in the centre of a black township and the other in the centre of a white township. The children in the black township are loaded into a bus driven to the centre of the white township and insisted to be schooled there. There is basically no children in the school in the black township.

Please do not think I am a racist, but the above is an excellent example of the misuse and abuse of rights obtained via what?...goverment law!!!

What is the gay equivelent of marriage? Who owns the concept or idea of marriage?

 

[Balstrome]

Seems to me, from all the hoopla, that if you are male and not the slightest Bi-Curious, then you will feel threated by the idea of Gay men. This does not seem to be the same for the females, and I wonder why this is so? Maybe the guys could learn something from the girls about T&A (Tolerance and Acceptance)

 

[Bageloo]

Its so funny that you guys keep on missing the point... There is 2 schools one in the centre of a black township and the other in the centre of a white township. The children in the black township are loaded into a bus driven to the centre of the white township and insisted to be schooled there. There is basically no children in the school in the black township.

Please do not think I am a racist, but the above is an excellent example of the misuse and abuse of rights obtained via what?...goverment law!!!

Are you implying that heterosexual people will now start marrying same sex partners just because the geovernment law allows for it? If so, then I suggest you be the first to do that. "...There's basically no children in the black township..." Nothing could be further from the truth. I have a background in education and I know only of overcrouded classrooms and non-existent fascilities in those schools.

 

[GavinMannion]

lol....

Please don't let this thread die it's hilarious

 

[arf9999]

Its so funny that you guys keep on missing the point... There is 2 schools one in the centre of a black township and the other in the centre of a white township. The children in the black township are loaded into a bus driven to the centre of the white township and insisted to be schooled there. There is basically no children in the school in the black township.

Please do not think I am a racist, but the above is an excellent example of the misuse and abuse of rights obtained via what?...goverment law!!!

Ok, now I'm irritated. Are you just purposely trying to be stupid? Or are you really such a fundamentalist bible-punching homophobe redneck.