GBV: We as men are the problem, says Springboks legend Bryan Habana

[azbob]

Local sportsmen are using their voices to influence other males to take ownership of their role in acting against gender-based violence.
Some of them were part of an online discussion on Wednesday to create this awareness

Former Springboks winger Bryan Habana said: “I am of the opinion that we as men are the problem. We need to be the solution including young boys and older gentlemen. If we are not going to play our part as men, the problem of gender-based violence will get worse.”

He said men needed to acknowledge that there is a male culture and toxic masculinity at the root of the gender-based violence problem.
Former Proteas captain AB de Villiers said: “We need to show and teach our sons today how to be good men, how to treat their mothers, sisters, aunties and teachers and most importantly, how to respect themselves in order to respect the women in their lives.”

GBV: We as men are the problem, says Springboks legend Bryan Habana

Local sportsmen are using their voices to influence other males to take ownership of their role in acting against gender-based violence.

www.iol.co.za

 

[azbob]

I have been saying it for a long time here but the toxic culture on mybb won't listen and launches scathing attacks instead. We need to do better, be better. Maybe they will listen to Bryan Habanero. Or maybe he'll suddenly be a horrible rugby player who's never achieved anything in his career. Maybe we will listen to AB then?

Edit: Just found out AB took the knee recently so I guess he's cancelled too.

 

[STS]

I am pretty sure men make up the bulk of robbery, rape, murder, molestation, assault, tax evasion, smuggling, etc. Is it perhaps cultural?

Wonder if we will spend 10 pages debating what being a real man is?

 

[WaxLyrical]

This toxic masculinity kak again.

"Guys teach your boys to respect women" - these groundbreaking developments

 

[3WA]

I like being able to stereotype troublemakers.

 

[backstreetboy]

 

[Jabulani22]

Stats are racist , sexist now too.

 

[azbob]

Irrelevant tweet

Men can do what they want to themselves and each other. Leave womxn alone. #WLM

 

[3WA]

I have been saying it for a long time here but the toxic culture on mybb won't listen and launches scathing attacks instead. We need to do better, be better.

My interest is piqued. How do we go from (1) acknowledging that we’re the problem (done), to (2) reducing the rate of femicide and rape? I'm happy to do part 1, but I can't see the follow-through to part 2.

As far as I’m aware, I don’t have rapists or wife-beaters in my own social circles, and I'm not about to go preach to strangers to stop beating their wives.

 

[randomcat]

Some men are the problem. I can only control my own actions, not my entire genders.

 

[azbob]

My interest is piqued. How do we go from (1) acknowledging that we’re the problem (done), to (2) reducing the rate of femicide and rape? I'm happy to do part 1, but I can't see the follow-through to part 2.

As far as I’m aware, I don’t have rapists or wife-beaters in my own social circles, and I'm not about to go preach to strangers to stop beating their wives.

It's good that you acknowledged part 1. As for the bolded part, you can never know for sure. Rapists, killers and wife-beaters look just like the rest of us who aren't. If we can all be a positive influence on the men around us, it's a start. We try right here but there's always so much resistance. Imagine getting upset over a Gilette ad?

 

[Mila]

Who raised these men?
nurture vs nature?

its a whole debate.
When Charlene said it everyone shat their pants.
His message isn’t wrong.
We all can be and do better.

 

[azbob]

Who raised these men?
nurture vs nature?

its a whole debate.
When Charlene said it everyone shat their pants.
His message isn’t wrong.
We all can be and do better.

Jason Rhode was raised pretty well. It encompasses all men. From those in poverty to those dripping in opulence to the rest of us in between. We're all a potential GBVer. Regardless of nature or nurture. Ticking timebombs.

 

[Vrotappel]

As die skoen pas...

 

[Sinbad]

Jason Rhode was raised pretty well. It encompasses all men. From those in poverty to those dripping in opulence to the rest of us in between. We're all a potential GBVer. Regardless of nature or nurture. Ticking timebombs.

Must be terrible to hate yourself this much. Sorry for your troubles, man.

 

[3WA]

It's good that you acknowledged part 1. As for the bolded part, you can never know for sure. Rapists, killers and wife-beaters look just like the rest of us who aren't. If we can all be a positive influence on the men around us, it's a start. We try right here but there's always so much resistance. Imagine getting upset over a Gilette ad?

I know we can never be sure, but when I look at the men I spend time with, I have no reason at all to think the women in their lives are abused. I filtered out friends with violent inclinations a long time ago.

To be honest, I feel as disempowered about dealing with our violent society as anyone else. By roll of the dice, I'm less likely to be attacked than a woman, but there’s little that I can do to improve things.

 

[skimread]

I have been saying it for a long time here but the toxic culture on mybb won't listen and launches scathing attacks instead. We need to do better, be better. Maybe they will listen to Bryan Habanero. Or maybe he'll suddenly be a horrible rugby player who's never achieved anything in his career. Maybe we will listen to AB then?

Edit: Just found out AB took the knee recently so I guess he's cancelled too.

It's toxic culture all over the internet. Problem is the policing. Police haven't adapted to the internet. Internet and social media companies have not done enough to catch predators. This leaves the worst offenders to try their crap thousands of times without fear or repercussion, trying to catch the vulnerable. Just look at the Epstein case where the police knew what he was doing. The problem is policing. You need a whole department for internet policing like you have a department for alcohol and drugs. Only when there is a consequence then will people stop. Otherwise it is just feel good woke talk.

A good example:

 

[Mila]

We're all a potential GBVer. Regardless of nature or nurture. Ticking timebombs.

I don’t think so.
I really don’t.
I do not think all Men are abusers and rapists
I think many men was raised by a woman who taught them they were king and are entitled to everything they want. And anything they can take.
I think it has to do with who and how you were raised. Toxic masculinity is taught by woman to men.

by saying that isn’t true is taking away from the power woman has always had over men.

woman teach boys to not cry and tell them be like xyz and boys either pick this role model or pick one that the media gives them.
We all can do better.

stop blaming men, woman raised them.
we are all to blame.
We can all be better.
This is way more complex than blaming men.

 

[saor]

Must be terrible to hate yourself this much. Sorry for your troubles, man.

I couldn't tell if he was being sarcastic or something weird with his first post (calling him Brian Habanero?). Now this 'all men are potential rapists' thing and I still don't know what's gotten into his soup with kak like that. Dafuq is going on here?

 

[R13...]

I don’t think so.
I really don’t.
I do not think all
Men are abusers and rapists
I think many men was raised by a woman who taught them they were king and are entitled to everything they want. And anything they can take.
I think it has to do with who and how you were raised. Toxic masculinity is taught by woman to men.

by saying that isn’t true is taking away from the power woman has always had over men.

woman teach boys to not cry and tell them be like xyz and boys either pick this role model or pick one that the media gives them.
We all can do better.

stop blaming men, woman raised them.
we are all to blame.
We can all be better.
This is way more complex than blaming men.

So, we can blame women?
Sweet.
/Goes off to take no responsibility for my actions. And punch some random woman