GBV: We as men are the problem, says Springboks legend Bryan Habana

[rietrot]

Maybe he goes around beating women, but Im not part of his problem.

 

[azbob]

it’s a matter of fact that kids that grow up without fathers have a higher change of being a f-up in life. Even Obama spoke about it.

if you want to identify a population with violence against women, high schools dropouts, violence etc then just look at the amount of kids that don’t know who their fathers are.

Maybe let’s start shaming the women that spread their legs without the pill or the men that just walk away?
That would require actual courage so instead someone such as yourself would hide behind your cowardice by shaming all men. As if the problem is widespread. (Note it isn’t)

More virtue signalling by the oh so virtuous abzo.
Such a fine/good/noble person - oh so virtuous.

If there is ever was an example of something else than a red pill or blue pill man, then we've got the goods right here. Perhaps he prays at night for having satan between his legs. haha.Imagine if he had to touch or go close to his penis area, he would get raped.

Ok until such toxicity subsides, there won’t be any progress against GBV. Thanks to the real men who are willing to participate.

 

[Nicodeamus]

...and if said father is abusive? Alcoholic?

Generalisations are like crabs. They make me itch.

the absent fatherhood that leads to criminal behavior phenomenon has been well documented for the last century. Anyone that did a bit of criminology knows this. It’s actually just good old common sense. If a boy has no stability at home then he will try and find it on the streets.

Naturally an abusive father is a problem, hence the law needs to be enforced.

But it doesn’t change the factual matter that the leading cause of criminal behavior is fathers that are uninvolved in their son’s upbringing.

 

[rietrot]

...and if said father is abusive? Alcoholic?

Generalisations are like crabs. They make me itch.

People that don't understand that a generalisation can be true even though there are exceptions, are worse than carbs.

 

[rustypup]

are worse than carbs.

Yeah. Carbs are the worst! Right?

 

[azbob]

People that don't understand that a generalisation can be true even though there are exceptions, are worse than carbs.

Well said. There are a lot of them here. The #NotAllMen crowd. Not just carbs, worse than communists even.

 

[Sinbad]

My issue with this whole thing is actually really simple.

It's generalisation, and it's creating negative stereotypes.
It's EXACTLY the same as racism.
You select a small sample of the population group you wish to target - specifically looking for people whose behaviour matches your agenda
You then point to them and say "look! All people that are in this population group are the problem!"
You completely ignore the facts that:
1) Most people in that population group are excluded from your sample because they don't fit your agenda
2) People from OTHER population groups exhibit exactly the same behaviour.

Humility before the facts. Something the woke really need to learn about and understand.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

Ok until such toxicity subsides, there won’t be any progress against GBV. Thanks to the real men who are willing to participate.

The fop has spoken

 

[Mephisto_Helix]

Everyone was expecting it ..... #notallmen crowd as if it's something dirty because you didn't fall over yourself and accept that you're as guilty as all men apparently

 

[rietrot]

Well said. There are a lot of them here. The #NotAllMen crowd. Not just carbs, worse than communists even.

The problem here is that the generalisation isn't even true. It isn't most men, I would be seriously suprised if it is as high as 10% of men like Brian Habana with a problem.

This might just be me, but I think a generalisation needs to be at least mostly true.

 

[My_King]

As Bryan se piel en sy hande hom pla, dan moet hy iets daar aan doen en weg bly van vrouens en veral leer om hulle nie te bliksem nie.

 

[azbob]

Let me give you another animal analogy since animal analogies seem to be all that some people understand.

Only female mosquitoes bite and transmit disease. Do you check if the mosquito has a vagina* before killing it? #NotAllMosquitoes

*I’m not saying that only female mosquitoes can have a vagina but for the sake of simplifying this discussion. Gender identity variation amongst mosquitoes is a complex topic.

 

[Vrotappel]

No, you're misinterpreting and misrepresenting me. I said potential GBVer, that's not the same as saying all men are GBVers. It's saying there's a probability of being one based on the available stats.



Wow Sinbad. You do know that rape can occur without one, right?

I can not believe the animosity and aggression here, and this is from the "decent" men. Why are *not all* men so angry?

Some feel guilty, thus if you feel guilty (for some or other reason) don't drag the rest of us into your guilt.

Just as I a white person is not responsible for apartheid because I am white I am also not responsible for another person raping solely by sharing the same race as the said person.

The thing the world lacks is personal accountability. Things like BLM just serves to increase this. It is so easy to try and find somethjing else to blame when you should be looking at the man in the mirror.

As parents we also carry is huge responsibility. Your kid must know what is right and wrong, your kid must own up for what he does.

Lastly some people are simply born bad and nothing can fix them.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

someone clicked on https://mybroadband.co.za/ instead of https://www.resetera.com/

 

[rietrot]

Let me give you another animal analogy since animal analogies seem to be all that some people understand.

Only female mosquitoes bite and transmit disease. Do you check if the mosquito has a vagina* before killing it? #NotAllMosquitoes

*I’m not saying that only female mosquitoes can have a vagina but for the sake of simplifying this discussion. Gender identity variation amongst mosquitoes is a complex topic.

Solution. Kill all men, end rape.

Btw. Where do we stand on the rape culture thing, the last time I heard there was no such culture?

 

[maumau]

The fop has spoken

What's fop?

 

[R13...]

Just as I a white person is not responsible for apartheid because I am white I am also not responsible for another person raping solely by sharing the same race as the said person.

Funny how we reject the negative race/gender associations but will happily take credit for the positive associations regardless of the fact that we had no part in their realization aside from sharing race/gender.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

What's fop?

Let me edify you

 

[bwana]

Welcome to Mansplaining GBV 101.

 

[surface]

I can not believe the animosity and aggression here, and this is from the "decent" men. Why are *not all* men so angry?

Remember who built the bridges argument?

For goodness sake, can you for once not look at the bright side? What if most violent criminals happen to be men. Look at scientists that are mostly men.