"Geen plek vir Afrikaans by universiteite - Nzimande"

[now05ster]

Since about a year, isizulu is on google translate.

But no schools with zulu medium yet in SA.

that is telling

I predominantly browse using my phone. Still gonna be a mission for me. With ice.

 

[Supervan II]

Since about a year, isizulu is on google translate.

But no schools with zulu medium yet in SA.

that is telling

VIVA ANC, VIVA! VIVA Comrade Blade!

Ranting about Afrikaans tuition, yet demanding exclusive tuition in a colonial language ...

You just can't make this sh!te up!

 

[ponder]

Afrikaans news articles should be posted in Off Topic, they obviously are of no value to non Afrikaners and are as good as posting an Isolezwe article in N&CA.

I don't speak this bongo bongo African language. Can we get an English translation like proper colonials? Ta.

Is that what the minister is saying here? Kinda hard to know when you cannot read the article, and you know how MyBb forumites like to twist things to suit their narrative, the Minister could be calling for Afrikaans to be loved and protected for all we know.

Sorry but this is as close as I could find to that article, https://www.iol.co.za/news/politics...anned-afrikaans-tertiary-institution-36148687
It's not the same though but relates to the same story.

I also tried to copy the text from the afrikaans article and parse it through google translate for you guys but the site does not allow that, I profusely apologise for not meeting your expectations and marginalising you but I assure you I will keep on trying.

 

[ɹǝuuᴉM]

Sometimes you can be really sensible and other times you can be so dense. The issue is two fold. Firstly the right to education in your own language and secondly academic freedom. I reckon those are pretty topical and important issues.

The ANC and their racist followers, give a shite about what your rights are to whatever. If it does not suit their agenda... #LiveWithIt

 

[Polymathic]

The vast majority of native Afrikaans speakers aren't even white.

 

[Ponderer]

A flag is "hate speech", and now a language is "hate speech".
Next up - being white is "hate speech".
But to publicly say that you hate whites is not hate speech.
FFS

 

[Polymathic]

Since about a year, isizulu is on google translate.

But no schools with zulu medium yet in SA.

that is telling

There's actually a couple Zulu medium primary schools in the former township the next town over.
Most black parents don't send their kids to that school but rather send to the English medium schools in my town. As a result today they make 95% of the learners in my former population and the local kids now go to another Primary School a couple km further.

Edit: the vast majority of the teachers at that school are Indian and the majority are going to retire in the next 5 years.

There's a black HOD there who actively runs to the Education Department to make sure when these Indian teachers retire they get replaced by black teachers.

I have a feeling once the teaching staff become majority black the learners from the other town will go to another school

 

[surface]

The vast majority of native Afrikaans speakers aren't even white.

Is it because those non-whites love afrikaans culture & language?

 

[Craig_]

F**k, but these okes have a living fear for Afrikaans. Don't blame them though. The language do force down fear and respect onto others.

While Nzimande is a massive (TM MyBB) moron, you are right up there with him with your inane garbage that you spout.

 

[HunterNW]

While Nzimande is a massive (TM MyBB) moron, you are right up there with him with your inane garbage that you spout.

You also scared ?

 

[Craig_]

You also scared ?

Afrikaans is my first language numbnut. Don't make me group you with that fool. That's a low you have yet to stoop to.

 

[TheChamp]

Sorry but this is as close as I could find to that article, https://www.iol.co.za/news/politics...anned-afrikaans-tertiary-institution-36148687
It's not the same though but relates to the same story.

I also tried to copy the text from the afrikaans article and parse it through google translate for you guys but the site does not allow that, I profusely apologise for not meeting your expectations and marginalising you but I assure you I will keep on trying.

Looking at the article you posted it is very reasonable compared to the "Geen plek vir Afrikaans" and OP's manufactured heading about Blade Nzimande attacking Afrikaans and the outrage that follows soon thereafter from the posters.

It is clear to me that this Afrikaans article is very different to the English one even though they are about the same thing, Blade answering a question from a Freedom Front guy in parliament.

The fact that people are free to put their own headings that are designed to influence the responses is inconsistent with N&CA posting guidelines, the response that follows are influenced by the tone that has been set, those of us who cannot read Afrikaans are left to our own devices trying to make sense of all the posters frothing at the mouth. Surely you can see that this is a problem?

I also apologise for annoying you and the others but I still insist that such articles belong in Off Topic.

 

[losta]

There's actually a couple Zulu medium primary schools in the former township the next town over.
...

Do you have an address or website of these schools? Do they really exist?

The official education dept stats were for primary

English : 92% of schools
Afrikaans: 8% of schools

 

[SykomantiS]

Sorry but this is as close as I could find to that article, https://www.iol.co.za/news/politics...anned-afrikaans-tertiary-institution-36148687
It's not the same though but relates to the same story.

I also tried to copy the text from the afrikaans article and parse it through google translate for you guys but the site does not allow that, I profusely apologise for not meeting your expectations and marginalising you but I assure you I will keep on trying.

Dis maklik, as jy weet hoe. Miskien kan the_chump nou sy kakpraat stopsit.

"We cannot allow Afrikaans to be used as a means of exclusion and oppression." Blade Nzimande, minister of higher education and education, science and technology, said in a statement on Tuesday. He responded to the Constitutional Court's ruling last week that Stellenbosch University's (2016) language policy is constitutionally justified. SU's 2016 policy gives preference to English as a language of instruction, while classes will be offered in Afrikaans if it is reasonable and practicable. Nzimande welcomed this ruling. "Although Afrikaans is one of only three languages in the world that has acquired the status of academic language during the past century, we cannot use it as a means of promoting the racist agenda of Afrikaner nationalists, as was the case under apartheid, "Nzimande said. He says the court's ruling will affect the outcomes of the revised Higher Education Language Policy. This policy was referred to the Higher Education Council for input before it was finalized. The purpose of this policy, says Nzimande, is to provide a framework through which all 11 official languages can be developed and strengthened. "The focus will be especially on the development of African languages as languages of learning, research and communication at universities." The SA Academy of Science and Arts strongly voiced its views on Nzimande's remarks on Tuesday. “The SA Academy distances itself with great emphasis from Dr. Blade Nzimande's obsolete stereotyping of the Afrikaans language community, ”states his statement. “To argue still in 2019 that the use of Afrikaans, a native language that has fully developed as an academic and scientific language, is a means to“ pursue a narrow and racist Afrikaner nationalist agenda as in apartheid ”. is not only an insult to our language community, but a vigorous attempt to capitalize on the Constitutional Court's ruling on Stellenbosch University's language policy, ”says Prof. Anne-Marie Beukes, CEO of the SA Academy. The SA Academy is concerned that the minister regards the court ruling as "a victory" over a supposed African hegemony. “However, we would like to point out to the Minister that the hegemony of Afrikaans that existed in higher education 30 years ago in the 1980s has now been replaced by an English hegemony, at the expense of our indigenous languages. Until recently, Afrikaans has only been used on a few university campuses with other languages, ”says Beukes.

edit: removed photo caption

 

[SoldierMan]

Yo Blade, the struggle is over, the Afrikaaners/Afrikaans isn't coming to get you in your sleep, you can relax now. Dumb ****.

 

[RaptorSA]

Maak toe jou bene, Blade, jou p0es steek uit.

 

[ponder]

Dis maklik, as jy weet hoe.

I cleaned it up a bit.

Geen plek vir Afrikaans by universiteite – Nzimande | Maroela Media

“Ons kan nie toelaat dat Afrikaans as ’n middel van uitsluiting en verdrukking gebruik word nie,” sê dr. Blade Nzimande.

maroelamedia.co.za

No place for Afrikaans at universities - Nzimande

"We cannot allow Afrikaans to be used as a means of exclusion and oppression."

Blade Nzimande, minister of higher education and education, science and technology, said in a statement on Tuesday. He responded to the Constitutional Court's ruling last week that Stellenbosch University's (2016) language policy is constitutionally justified. SU's 2016 policy gives preference to English as a language of instruction, while classes will be offered in Afrikaans if it is reasonable and practicable.

Nzimande welcomed this ruling.

"Although Afrikaans is one of only three languages in the world that has acquired the status of academic language during the past century, we cannot use it as a means of promoting the racist agenda of Afrikaner nationalists, as was the case under apartheid, "Nzimande said.

He says the court's ruling will affect the outcomes of the revised Higher Education Language Policy. This policy was referred to the Higher Education Council for input before it was finalized.

The purpose of this policy, says Nzimande, is to provide a framework through which all 11 official languages can be developed and strengthened. "The focus will be especially on the development of African languages as languages of learning, research and communication at universities."

The SA Academy of Science and Arts strongly voiced its views on Nzimande's remarks on Tuesday.

“The SA Academy distances itself with great emphasis from Dr. Blade Nzimande's obsolete stereotyping of the Afrikaans language community, ”states his statement.

“To argue still in 2019 that the use of Afrikaans, a native language that has fully developed as an academic and scientific language, is a means to“ pursue a narrow and racist Afrikaner nationalist agenda as in apartheid ”. is not only an insult to our language community, but a vigorous attempt to capitalize on the Constitutional Court's ruling on Stellenbosch University's language policy, ”says Prof. Anne-Marie Beukes, CEO of the SA Academy.

The SA Academy is concerned that the minister regards the court ruling as "a victory" over a supposed African hegemony. “However, we would like to point out to the Minister that the hegemony of Afrikaans that existed in higher education 30 years ago in the 1980s has now been replaced by an English hegemony, at the expense of our indigenous languages. Until recently, Afrikaans has only been used on a few university campuses with other languages, ”says Beukes.

 

[MEIOT]

F**k, but these okes have a living fear for Afrikaans. Don't blame them though. The language do force down fear and respect onto others.

Fear and respect? Really?

How so?

 

[ponder]

The fact that people are free to put their own headings that are designed to influence the responses is inconsistent with N&CA posting guidelines, the response that follows are influenced by the tone that has been set, those of us who cannot read Afrikaans are left to our own devices trying to make sense of all the posters frothing at the mouth. Surely you can see that this is a problem?

I also apologise for annoying you and the others but I still insist that such articles belong in Off Topic.

Hopefully, this correction and translation is acceptable meeting forum rules.

Geen plek vir Afrikaans by universiteite – Nzimande | Maroela Media

“Ons kan nie toelaat dat Afrikaans as ’n middel van uitsluiting en verdrukking gebruik word nie,” sê dr. Blade Nzimande.

maroelamedia.co.za

No place for Afrikaans at universities - Nzimande

"We cannot allow Afrikaans to be used as a means of exclusion and oppression."

Blade Nzimande, minister of higher education and education, science and technology, said in a statement on Tuesday. He responded to the Constitutional Court's ruling last week that Stellenbosch University's (2016) language policy is constitutionally justified. SU's 2016 policy gives preference to English as a language of instruction, while classes will be offered in Afrikaans if it is reasonable and practicable.

Nzimande welcomed this ruling.

"Although Afrikaans is one of only three languages in the world that has acquired the status of academic language during the past century, we cannot use it as a means of promoting the racist agenda of Afrikaner nationalists, as was the case under apartheid, "Nzimande said.

He says the court's ruling will affect the outcomes of the revised Higher Education Language Policy. This policy was referred to the Higher Education Council for input before it was finalized.

The purpose of this policy, says Nzimande, is to provide a framework through which all 11 official languages can be developed and strengthened. "The focus will be especially on the development of African languages as languages of learning, research and communication at universities."

The SA Academy of Science and Arts strongly voiced its views on Nzimande's remarks on Tuesday.

“The SA Academy distances itself with great emphasis from Dr. Blade Nzimande's obsolete stereotyping of the Afrikaans language community, ”states his statement.

“To argue still in 2019 that the use of Afrikaans, a native language that has fully developed as an academic and scientific language, is a means to“ pursue a narrow and racist Afrikaner nationalist agenda as in apartheid ”. is not only an insult to our language community, but a vigorous attempt to capitalize on the Constitutional Court's ruling on Stellenbosch University's language policy, ”says Prof. Anne-Marie Beukes, CEO of the SA Academy.

The SA Academy is concerned that the minister regards the court ruling as "a victory" over a supposed African hegemony. “However, we would like to point out to the Minister that the hegemony of Afrikaans that existed in higher education 30 years ago in the 1980s has now been replaced by an English hegemony, at the expense of our indigenous languages. Until recently, Afrikaans has only been used on a few university campuses with other languages, ”says Beukes.

 

[Mista_Mobsta]

Nzimande would do better to ensure that the rest of the official languages catches up to Afrikaans as a means of Academic use then. In his own words: "Although Afrikaans is one of only three languages in the world that has acquired the status of academic language during the past century..."

It is easier to destroy than to build isn't it Nzimande? Why don't you ensure that new schools are built on a smaller scale to cater for more of the official languages? Why don't you pass various language policies that subsidise the development of the other languages towards an academic future? That would require actual work/planning/effort/intelligence to do it seems...

As for the Solidarity Soltech issue, they are a privately funded institution and are well within their constitutional rights to teach in whatever language they see fit. Here is a direct extract from the constitution and Nzimande can f*ckoff with the his thinking: "However, they may not implement policy that results in language being a barrier to access and success for students.
"Private higher education institutions must also uphold the constitution and implement language policies that do not act as barriers to access and success."


(3) Everyone has the right to establish and maintain, at their own expense,
independent educational institutions that—
(a) do not discriminate on the basis of race;
(b) are registered with the state; and
(c) maintain standards that are not inferior to standards at comparable public
educational institutions.
Chapter 2: Bill of Rights
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(4) Subsection (3) does not preclude state subsidies for independent educational
institutions.

Checkmate and f0k0f Nzimande