Georgia protest against ‘Russian law’ draws tens of thousands on Tbilisi streets

NarrowBandFtw said:
indeed, seeing as the factual answer is Zelensky ...


coming from someone cheering on actual globally recognized terrorists in Syria I'll take a flushing toilet's opinion over yours
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Seriously dude, how do you expect a country to hold an election when it's being bombarded by your benevolent Uncle Vlad?
 
vigras rojara said:
Seriously dude, how do you expect a country to hold an election when it's being bombarded by your benevolent Uncle Vlad?
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omg, of course you swallowed that salty extra chunky load from Zelensky

... how about: elections were held in all the liberated Ukrainian territories at the same time, under worse conditions seeing as they are at the front

but oh no, Z just couldn't make it happen, awww shucks ...
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
indeed, seeing as the factual answer is Zelensky ...


coming from someone cheering on actual globally recognized terrorists in Syria I'll take a flushing toilet's opinion over yours
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Cheering them on? Yeah OK buttercup, you tell yourself that if it makes you feel better.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
omg, of course you swallowed that salty extra chunky load from Zelensky

... how about: elections were held in all the liberated Ukrainian territories at the same time, under worse conditions seeing as they are at the front

but oh no, Z just couldn't make it happen, awww shucks ...
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Which elections exactly are you referring to and who conducted them?

PS. Hope you keep your knee pads handy, with all the Vlad knob polishing you do.
 
vigras rojara said:
Which elections exactly are you referring to and who conducted them?
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how does it matter in the least?

Zelensky's sockpuppet you claim it could not be done, it was done by someone else under worse conditions, ergo Zelensky was lying ... for the obvious reason that it allows him to remain Ukraine's newly installed dictator for longer while hilariously still claiming to be fighting for "democracy" :ROFL:
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
how does it matter in the least?

Zelensky's sockpuppet you claim it could not be done, it was done by someone else under worse conditions, ergo Zelensky was lying ... for the obvious reason that it allows him to remain Ukraine's newly installed dictator for longer while hilariously still claiming to be fighting for "democracy" :ROFL:
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Yet you don't want to answer my question.

Says it all really.
 
vigras rojara said:
Yet you don't want to answer my question.

Says it all really.
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you mean your weak attempt at misdirecting from the simple fact that elections in Ukraine DID happen under war conditions and Zelensky is lying like the tin-pot dictator he is just to stay in power?

yeah that's not a question, you must think the rest of us as gullible as you are if you think slapping a question mark after weak misdirection magically makes it a question ... or worse, something I'm magically obliged to entertain while you ignore the facts
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
you mean your weak attempt at misdirecting from the simple fact that elections in Ukraine DID happen under war conditions and Zelensky is lying like the tin-pot dictator he is just to stay in power?

yeah that's not a question, you must think the rest of us as gullible as you are if you think slapping a question mark after weak misdirection magically makes it a question ... or worse, something I'm magically obliged to entertain while you ignore the facts
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Could you post a link to some info around these elections please?

I suppose that's "weak misdirection" too though. Anyway, assume your position again and don't forget the mouthwash.

Dasivadanya
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
you mean your weak attempt at misdirecting from the simple fact that elections in Ukraine DID happen under war conditions and Zelensky is lying like the tin-pot dictator he is just to stay in power?

yeah that's not a question, you must think the rest of us as gullible as you are if you think slapping a question mark after weak misdirection magically makes it a question ... or worse, something I'm magically obliged to entertain while you ignore the facts
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You and your 2 or 3 sycophants does not constitute an 'us', delusional suckleboi 😂
 
vigras rojara said:
Could you post a link to some info around these elections please?

I suppose that's "weak misdirection" too though. Anyway, assume your position again and don't forget the mouthwash.

Dasivadanya
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Russia's use of "passportization" in both Georgia and Ukraine has been a strategy to justify military interventions and territorial annexations.

Georgia:

In the early 2000s, Russia began distributing passports to residents of Georgia's breakaway regions, Abkhazia and South Ossetia. By 2008, a significant portion of the populations in these areas held Russian citizenship. Russia cited the need to protect its citizens as a justification for its military intervention in Georgia in 2008.

Ukraine:

A similar pattern emerged in Ukraine. Following the 2014 annexation of Crimea, Russia facilitated the distribution of Russian passports to residents in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions. This "passportization" was used to legitimize Russia's involvement in these areas under the pretext of protecting Russian citizens.

In both instances, Russia's strategy involved:

1. Passportization: Distributing Russian passports to local populations.
2. Manufacturing Crises: Instigating or exacerbating conflicts in these regions.
3. Military Intervention: Deploying Russian forces under the guise of protecting its newly minted citizens.
4. Annexation or Control: Holding referendums or elections, often under coercive conditions, to legitimize territorial claims.

This approach has been a consistent element of Russia's foreign policy in its near abroad, leveraging citizenship as a tool for political and territorial expansion.

www.mei.edu

The role of the West in countering Russian Passportization in the Black Sea

'Passportization' has been a longstanding policy of Russia as it seeks to maintain control over former Soviet countries. The policy is a functional ideological mechanism that has served as a complementary argument to Russia’s military interventions in the Black Sea region and influence in...
www.mei.edu www.mei.edu
link.springer.com

Politics of Passportization and Territorial Conflicts

'Politics of Passportization and Territorial Conflicts' published in 'The Palgrave Encyclopedia of Peace and Conflict Studies'
link.springer.com link.springer.com
www.swp-berlin.org

Russia’s “Passportisation” of the Donbas

The Mass Naturalisation of Ukrainians Is More Than a Foreign Policy Tool
www.swp-berlin.org www.swp-berlin.org


If Russia comes to your country giving away free passports, find a new country. The Orcish Horde is on it's way.
 
@NarrowBandFtw LoL Patrick Lancaster. :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

Patrick Lancaster is an American vlogger, podcaster and influencer.[2][3] Although described as pro-Kremlin, Lancaster has been called a double agent, and his videos covering the Russian invasion of Ukraine while attempting to spread Russian propaganda have actually often revealed compromising Russian military information, which has been used against Russia by Ukrainian forces, western intelligence agencies, and western media.[4][5][6] Lancaster is known for regularly filming staged scenes and attempting to pass them off as real, and has been referred to as a fake

An interesting fact: Lancaster always ends up in the right place at the right time. Shortly before the Russian invasion earlier this year, the American was reporting on an alleged bombing near the Ukrainian city of Donetsk, in territory controlled by pro-Russian separatists. In a video account from the scene, he claimed that three civilians had been killed. Following an investigation by Bellingcat, however, it became clear that the incident was staged, as the skull of one of the ‘victims’ of the explosion showed traces of an autopsy
factcheck.bg

The claim that Western media are silent on the shelling of Belgorod is false - Factcheck.bg

The claim of the American journalist Patrick Lancaster that Western media turned a blind eye to the rocket attacks on the Russian city of Belgorod does not correspond to the truth. Patrick Lancaster cannot be described as an independent journalist. A report on the shelling in the Russian city...
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Lancaster's videos on the conflict have regularly been aired by Russian state owned media like Ruptly, Zvezda, and RT

From 3:50

 
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sefeddt said:
@NarrowBandFtw LoL Patrick Lancaster. :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

Patrick Lancaster is an American vlogger, podcaster and influencer.[2][3] Although described as pro-Kremlin, Lancaster has been called a double agent, and his videos covering the Russian invasion of Ukraine while attempting to spread Russian propaganda have actually often revealed compromising Russian military information, which has been used against Russia by Ukrainian forces, western intelligence agencies, and western media.[4][5][6] Lancaster is known for regularly filming staged scenes and attempting to pass them off as real, and has been referred to as a fake

An interesting fact: Lancaster always ends up in the right place at the right time. Shortly before the Russian invasion earlier this year, the American was reporting on an alleged bombing near the Ukrainian city of Donetsk, in territory controlled by pro-Russian separatists. In a video account from the scene, he claimed that three civilians had been killed. Following an investigation by Bellingcat, however, it became clear that the incident was staged, as the skull of one of the ‘victims’ of the explosion showed traces of an autopsy
factcheck.bg

The claim that Western media are silent on the shelling of Belgorod is false - Factcheck.bg

The claim of the American journalist Patrick Lancaster that Western media turned a blind eye to the rocket attacks on the Russian city of Belgorod does not correspond to the truth. Patrick Lancaster cannot be described as an independent journalist. A report on the shelling in the Russian city...
factcheck.bg factcheck.bg

Lancaster's videos on the conflict have regularly been aired by Russian state owned media like Ruptly, Zvezda, and RT

From 3:50

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Russian propaganda is effective because they do not pretend to deceive or mislead you while hiding the fact; they do it openly. They know that you know, and you know that they know you know.

This tactic is described as "post-truth" or "aggressive deception", and it can be part of a broader strategy called "truth decay". In this approach, the goal is not necessarily to convince people that the lies are true but to erode trust in objective truth altogether.

This tactic is rooted in the idea of "reality distortion", where the authorities or propagandists openly spread falsehoods or misleading narratives, fully aware that the public knows they are lying. The emphasis is on undermining the very concept of truth and factual information, creating a sense of chaos where any objective reality is questioned or dismissed.

This strategy can also be called "lying as a power move" or "truth denialism". In Russian propaganda, particularly under the leadership of Vladimir Putin, this has been observed in the way the state pushes narratives that are flagrantly false, even when they are easily disproven.

The aim is not to persuade people but to create an environment where nothing is considered trustworthy, even by those who are directly exposed to the lies. This erodes the public's ability to discern what is true, leaving people with a sense of uncertainty and doubt, which can ultimately destabilize societies and weaken opposition to the state's actions.

In essence, it's about attacking the concept of truth itself, rather than merely promoting false information, and this can be seen in many of the aggressive disinformation campaigns that Russia has employed in recent years.

You may come across a couple of these types just on this forum. They don't hide it; it's out in the open. You may have thought of it as trolling, but it's much more than that. Now you know why.
 
If you encounter someone, either online or in real life, who uses tactics resembling a 'firehose of falsehoods' or other manipulative behaviors, it's crucial to protect your well-being. Consider blocking or distancing yourself from them to limit their influence on your life. Their corrosive behavior, whether you're aware of it or not, can have a significant negative impact on your psychological health.
 
Solarion said:
If you encounter someone, either online or in real life, who uses tactics resembling a 'firehose of falsehoods' or other manipulative behaviors, it's crucial to protect your well-being. Consider blocking or distancing yourself from them to limit their influence on your life. Their corrosive behavior, whether you're aware of it or not, can have a significant negative impact on your psychological health.
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But I enjoy reading their utter stupidity too much and I am comfortable sacrificing a bit of my mental health for that dopamine.
 
Solarion said:
If you encounter someone, either online or in real life, who uses tactics resembling a 'firehose of falsehoods' or other manipulative behaviors, it's crucial to protect your well-being. Consider blocking or distancing yourself from them to limit their influence on your life. Their corrosive behavior, whether you're aware of it or not, can have a significant negative impact on your psychological health.
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But they're so funny though..... they're always good for a laugh
 
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