German's murder only the third tourist death in SA in 27 years, country is safe - Sisulu

[TEXTILE GUY]

Pass mark for the witch.

If the OP doesnt like whats said - can take it up with the folks who made the statements?

Of course OP can also post junk to pick up his post count, I spose.

 

[daveza]

Does anyone have access to this -

FACT CHECK | No, Minister Sisulu, several tourists have died in SA since democracy | News24

Tourism Minister Lindiwe Sisulu has made misleading claims, including that only three tourists have died in the country since democracy.

www.news24.com

 

[Creag]

There you have it. We live in the most safest country.

There you have it. The good minister is vindicated.

Minister = 1.
People who know better = 0.

 

[The_Librarian]

Just proves that the elite is so far removed from reality, it is not funny anymore

 

[Howdy]

Just proves that the elite is so far removed from reality, it is not funny anymore

Have sympathy with these elites. They gave so many poor security people jobs, they can't see through them all. I'm sure it's not deliberate.

 

[konfab]

Does anyone have access to this -

FACT CHECK | No, Minister Sisulu, several tourists have died in SA since democracy | News24

Tourism Minister Lindiwe Sisulu has made misleading claims, including that only three tourists have died in the country since democracy.

www.news24.com

I do find the euphemism"since democracy" hilarious. It is like they cannot state that the ANC is even the remotest bit responsible for the current state of things.

They probably have a quota set by their bosses on how many times they are allowed to criticise the ANC a week.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

You must be rich

Rich because I live in a hotel in the UK or EU?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Northern Kenya not safe. Same for Uganda around Gulu. It depends on where abouts you are Nigeria can be iffy in places.

Been to several cities in Nigeria. Port Harcourt was the worst. We were put into a police blue light convoy with darkened windows from the harbour to our hotel where we were guarded by AK47 wielding guards. Then a blue light convoy to the airport.

In Lagos everyone sees you as a wallet. Even the person that checks your Yellow Card at the airport before you get to the check in desk. But much safer than Hillbrow.

 

[Polymathic]

So, it seems German tourists have a habit of dying overseas. Video is timestamped at 59:26

 

[MilitantNightElf]

Well we have killed 5 999 997 less foreigners in the last 80 years than the Germans did so I think we have a lot less to feel guilty about.

I bet you did Nazi that joke coming.

 

[Geoff.D]

Woman from UK killed on honeymoon in South Africa

Newlyweds were carjacked by gunmen and body of the woman was found in stolen car

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British tourist found murdered in Cape Town

A British tourist has been found dead after being abducted by armed men in Cape Town, South African police revealed on Sunday. The 28-year-old victim and her male companion were kidnapped on

www.thetimes.co.uk

British-Muslim mother shot dead while holidaying in South Africa

LONDON: A British-Muslim mother of four has been shot dead by an apparent stray bullet while visiting family and friends in Johannesburg. Fatima Issa, a 47-year-old school teacher from Leicester, was with her daughter Humairah, 19, in a house on the Meyersdal View Estate in the city when she was...

www.arabnews.com

SA tourist killing makes world news

News of the killing of a British tourist was all over the UK media, with newspapers reminding readers of SA's high car-hijacking and murder rates.

mg.co.za

Three members of Perth family killed with axe in South Africa – reports

Martin van Breda, wife Teresa and son Rudi are found dead at their home in Stellenbosch, east of Cape Town

www.theguardian.com

Australian banker James Starkey brutally killed in South African hotel room

An Australian banker engaged to be married was found dead in his upmarket apartment in South Africa this month.

www.smh.com.au

A couple that Ms. Sisulu may have missed?

Maybe only the third German tourist? Far more likely that she is just showing her 30% pass rate skills.

 

[RonSwanson]

Been to several cities in Nigeria. Port Harcourt was the worst. We were put into a police blue light convoy with darkened windows from the harbour to our hotel where we were guarded by AK47 wielding guards. Then a blue light convoy to the airport.

In Lagos everyone sees you as a wallet. Even the person that checks your Yellow Card at the airport before you get to the check in desk. But much safer than Hillbrow.

Been three times, each time I had 2 close protection agents and a blue light convoy for airport <-> hotel transfers, and just the CPAs for inter-Lagos travel. Lots of hustlers at the airport and lots of corrupt officials as well. On my third trip, due to heightened kidnapping risks at the time, the country manager of my employer sent a third guard (unknown to me at the time) to shadow my "entourage" as well. Generally though, I had a great time there, my host was excellent, the food was great, most people were decent, friendly and professional and we even went out in the evenings to restuarants and night clubs (with my CPAs waiting in the car). It's true that everyone sees you as a wallet, my host (an expat who lives in Nigeria) quietly handed out fistfuls of notes to maitre 'ds, bouncers and doormen, literally all of the time, with every request. There was no solicitation, it just happened as if it was the most normal thing on earth.

 

[Geoff.D]

Been three times, each time I had 2 close protection agents and a blue light convoy for airport <-> hotel transfers, and just the CPAs for inter-Lagos travel. Lots of hustlers at the airport and lots of corrupt officials as well. On my third trip, due to heightened kidnapping risks at the time, the country manager of my employer sent a third guard (unknown to me at the time) to shadow my "entourage" as well. Generally though, I had a great time there, my host was excellent, the food was great, most people were decent, friendly and professional and we even went out in the evenings to restuarants and night clubs (with my CPAs waiting in the car). It's true that everyone sees you as a wallet, my host (an expat who lives in Nigeria) quietly handed out fistfuls of notes to maitre 'ds, bouncers and doormen, literally all of the time, with every request. There was no solicitation, it just happened as if it was the most normal thing on earth.

Been there many many times. Lagos, Port Harcourt, Abuja, Kano and a few really small places. Travelled by road from Accra in Ghana to Lagos also. 3 times completely on my own with no guards etc and no local expats or anyone else as support.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Been there many many times. Lagos, Port Harcourt, Abuja, Kano and a few really small places. Travelled by road from Accra in Ghana to Lagos also. 3 times completely on my own with no guards etc and no local expats or anyone else as support.

How recent was it that you were on your own in Port Harcourt?

 

[RonSwanson]

Been there many many times. Lagos, Port Harcourt, Abuja, Kano and a few really small places. Travelled by road from Accra in Ghana to Lagos also. 3 times completely on my own with no guards etc and no local expats or anyone else as support.

I am sure that it's possible. My employer has a strict travel risk policy, and Corporate Security do a risk assessment and make recommendations and actions, which I followed to the letter.

 

[RonSwanson]

Traffic in Lagos was crazy, and I was very glad that my CPAs had a large black Range Rover, drivers there are very aggressive and the only time that I felt threatened was when we had a tipper truck next to us in a traffic circle. Still, there are hundreds of kamikaze motorcyclists on Chinese motorcycles, some three and even four up, all without helmets, weaving in and out of traffic.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

I am sure that it's possible. My employer has a strict travel risk policy, and Corporate Security do a risk assessment and make recommendations and actions, which I followed to the letter.

I have the same. And the company has a continuously updated and confidential travel intelligence document. Whenever you travel to a dodgy place your attention is drawn to the document and you have to acknowledge reading it.

Meet and greet procedures are also in the document so that the person collecting you can be determined as the genuine person despite him wearing the company logo on his shirt.

 

[Geoff.D]

I am sure that it's possible. My employer has a strict travel risk policy, and Corporate Security do a risk assessment and make recommendations and actions, which I followed to the letter.

So did my "employer when it was large corporates". But, when it comes to freelancing for smaller operations then, you are on your own mate.

 

[Geoff.D]

Traffic in Lagos was crazy, and I was very glad that my CPAs had a large black Range Rover, drivers there are very aggressive and the only time that I felt threatened was when we had a tipper truck next to us in a traffic circle. Still, there are hundreds of kamikaze motorcyclists on Chinese motorcycles, some three and even four up, all without helmets, weaving in and out of traffic.

Ever had the guts to get a lift on one of those taxi bikes/scooters things in Lagos? Once was enough for me.

 

[RonSwanson]

Ever had the guts to get a lift on one of those taxi bikes/scooters things in Lagos? Once was enough for me.

I did it in rural Zimbabwe a few years back, but no, you won't catch me doing it in Lagos, traffic is far too busy and chaotic, and the motorcycle drivers challenge death all the time. You get the MyBB / Leo Prinsloo "Kom Jou Kont" award of the day for having the balls to try it.