German's murder only the third tourist death in SA in 27 years, country is safe - Sisulu

[Cosmik Debris]

We'll all remember this next time you ask for evidence.

Direct first person word of mouth followed by action is evidence.

 

[WizardOfAges]

Direct first person word of mouth followed by action is evidence.

Like I said, we'll remember that.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Warzone ?

I don't live in a warzone.

Are there war zones in the country, certainly.

Is the whole country a warzone, certainly not.

Do I go to the warzones in the country, I do not.

Am I safe because I don't go to warzones.

So far.

Right. Do tourists know where these warzones are?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Like I said, we'll remember that.

Yes. Do. And learn what is evidence and what is not before you try to bring it up.

And who are the "we" you mention?

 

[WizardOfAges]

Yes. Do. And learn what is evidence and what is not before you try to bring it up.

And who are the "we" you mention?

Right... It's interesting because e.g. @TheChamp does exactly the same and then it's not evidence.

You are the expert, figure it out.

 

[wingnut771]

Right. Do tourists know where these warzones are?

Do Garmins and Tom Toms know. I don't think they discriminate either.

 

[daveza]

Right. Do tourists know where these warzones are?

No.

But unless they are thimbles, they can ask, find out, research.

When I traveled, I would ask the hotel, my hosts, the tour guide.
I want to go here, is it dangerous ?

I never got mugged, murdered, raped, kidnapped or shot at overseas either.

 

[daveza]

Headline from today's media -



The missing word, Cape Town, Jo'burg, Durban ?

London.

Is London safe to visit ?

 

[rietrot]

Most times it's easier to just go with "It's not my problem."

Selfish outlook sure but it saves a lot of pain and suffering later.

Technically not true. Taking the 'not my problem' approach is easier short term but has long term negative consequences. Especially now that everyone does it.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Right... It's interesting because e.g. @TheChamp does exactly the same and then it's not evidence.

You are the expert, figure it out.

Why do I get the distinct impression of a 14 year old behind your keyboard?

Champ can fight his own battles he doesn't need you.

And who are the "we" you mention?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Do Garmins and Tom Toms know. I don't think they discriminate either.

True. Garmin has led me through some really dodgy areas. It would be too PC to put in and areas to avoid feature.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

No.

But unless they are thimbles, they can ask, find out, research.

When I traveled, I would ask the hotel, my hosts, the tour guide.
I want to go here, is it dangerous ?

I never got mugged, murdered, raped, kidnapped or shot at overseas either.

I've never had to ask a hotel whether a place is dangerous in the EU nor UK...

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Headline from today's media -

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The missing word, Cape Town, Jo'burg, Durban ?

London.

Is London safe to visit ?

Absolutely. And I suppose this is from the Daily Mail after someone got stabbed?

 

[daveza]

Absolutely. And I suppose this is from the Daily Mail after someone got stabbed?

It is indeed from the DM, over dramatic sure, factual, absolutely.

3 were stabbed actually.

But you say London is safe - is that 100% safe or the same meaning of safe that Sisulu used ?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

It is indeed from the DM, over dramatic sure, factual, absolutely.

3 were stabbed actually.

But you say London is safe - is that 100% safe or the same meaning of safe that Sisulu used ?

Knew it. Decide for yourself:

Central Johannesburg in the day. Nobody goes there by night:

Central New York by night:

Central London by night:

Central Hamburg by night

 

[Herr der Verboten]

They're not journalists. They're "journalists"

*urinalists

 

[Thestealth]

Woman from UK killed on honeymoon in South Africa

Newlyweds were carjacked by gunmen and body of the woman was found in stolen car

www.theguardian.com

British tourist found murdered in Cape Town

A British tourist has been found dead after being abducted by armed men in Cape Town, South African police revealed on Sunday. The 28-year-old victim and her male companion were kidnapped on

www.thetimes.co.uk

British-Muslim mother shot dead while holidaying in South Africa

LONDON: A British-Muslim mother of four has been shot dead by an apparent stray bullet while visiting family and friends in Johannesburg. Fatima Issa, a 47-year-old school teacher from Leicester, was with her daughter Humairah, 19, in a house on the Meyersdal View Estate in the city when she was...

www.arabnews.com

SA tourist killing makes world news

News of the killing of a British tourist was all over the UK media, with newspapers reminding readers of SA's high car-hijacking and murder rates.

mg.co.za

Three members of Perth family killed with axe in South Africa – reports

Martin van Breda, wife Teresa and son Rudi are found dead at their home in Stellenbosch, east of Cape Town

www.theguardian.com

Australian banker James Starkey brutally killed in South African hotel room

An Australian banker engaged to be married was found dead in his upmarket apartment in South Africa this month.

www.smh.com.au

A couple that Ms. Sisulu may have missed?

We can't take all the credit. The van Breda family was killed by their own son.

 

[R13...]

Knew it. Decide for yourself:

Central Johannesburg in the day. Nobody goes there by night:

Central New York by night:

Central London by night:

Central Hamburg by night

Lol, you do know there are dangerous areas in London and New York where you a tourist can't just wander about? Sure Joburg is largely wholly no go at night but I wonder how you picked those pics. You claiming no one goes there even by day is absolute nonsense as people who rely on the city fill the streets daily.

 

[Spizz]

Knew it. Decide for yourself:

Central Johannesburg in the day. Nobody goes there by night:

Central New York by night:

Central London by night:

Central Hamburg by night

Nicely selected photographs and a tad disingenuous fella. Why not put in the Waterfront or Stellenbosch?

 

[wingnut771]

Nicely selected photographs and a tad disingenuous fella. Why not put in the Waterfront or Stellenbosch?

Lets rather stick to CBD's instead of cherry picking spots.