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Getting a number off the National Consumer Database

Reiste

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#1
I've been getting cold calls on my cell phone from bunches of companies, all of whom think that I'm somebody I'm not - and always the same person. None of them check my name and ID though - they just start talking.

I finally asked one of them where they got my number from, and it turned out to be this infernal National Consumer Database.

Does anyone know how to get a number off of the NCD once it's on there - especially since I NEVER checked any box that said they could have my number - someone else put my number on under their name, or someone typed it wrong, or something.
 

CathJ

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Hmm, I just got a call from "Go Banking" today - on my work number, which I don't give out to anyone (don't even know if my bank has it).

Also got it from the National Consumer Database, which also seems to have details about your credit rating as well.
 

vxv

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#8
I actually had the same calls several times.

Also confirmed my number was stolen and sod by the national consumer database. I actually confirmed with them that they bought my number with the rest of the list to cold canvas us.

I understand I pay for my number and my contract, who gives these capitalists our numbers and sell them. Where is my profit share? Do I need to advertise my ID book and start selling that?

Who the hell are these guys, and who actually still believes the illusion that cold calling works?
 

vxv

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Another thing...

I just checked the site http://www.dmasa.org/core/index.php, let me get this straight, I need to send my details to them to be removed of the "Don’t Contact Me" list.

How about we sue them to prove how they got our details? Why do I need them to be removed.

You won't believe it guys, I just received 1 million rand for subscribing to a mailing list or I just bought the best water cooler in the world from a cold call.

WTF is the chance...
 

Uli

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#10
Yes I do agree but at least you can unsubscribe, just remember that this is Africa every thing works the other way around here.
 

rwenzori

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This "National Consumer Database" is just a bullshirt that telemarketers are trained to refer to. Companies with big lists of consumers trade lists, buy and sell them and whatever. Many telemarketing companies buy their data from a company called ETL, who do nicely targeted extracts off their database for between R1 and R2 per ID number, depending on volume, haggling, etc. The credit bureaux will take your list of ID numbers and "refresh" the contact data for about 50c a record, to ensure you have up-to-date data. So much for privacy. They, of course, are getting updated records monthly from their big retailer subscribers, so it all works jolly well. So, if your telemarketers get one sale every 30 calls, the data cost is about R60.

ETL do allow you to remove your details offa their lists at:

http://www.etl.co.za/

:eek::eek:
 

vxv

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This "National Consumer Database" is just a bullshirt that telemarketers are trained to refer to. Companies with big lists of consumers trade lists, buy and sell them and whatever. Many telemarketing companies buy their data from a company called ETL, who do nicely targeted extracts off their database for between R1 and R2 per ID number, depending on volume, haggling, etc. The credit bureaux will take your list of ID numbers and "refresh" the contact data for about 50c a record, to ensure you have up-to-date data. So much for privacy. They, of course, are getting updated records monthly from their big retailer subscribers, so it all works jolly well. So, if your telemarketers get one sale every 30 calls, the data cost is about R60.

ETL do allow you to remove your details offa their lists at:

http://www.etl.co.za/

:eek::eek:
Thanks for the info, but this DB has to be wiped. Seriously, when are we getting our ID tags implanted?
 

Jujubeans

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Hey all,

Found you through google, i got a cold call from someone trying to sell me something (i have no idea what he was talking about - wasnt listening!).

It was only after the call that i wondered where the company got my information, which lead me to this thread. I've looked at some of the links and most appear to be voluntary codes of conduct and not actual acts to prohibit cold calling? Am i right that there is no law against cold calling in SA yet?

I see that the Consumer Protect Bill is in its 3rd draft (thedti.gov.za) but doesnt appear to be in place yet...


Any answers would be welcomed! :confused:
 

moek

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Different??

:) Hi Uli, on a point of clarity to your statement..."...just remember that this is Africa every thing works the other way around here"...It is the profiteering capitalists from all over the world that work differently in Africa than they do in their own country's.
 

ettubrute

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#19
Have been having the same problem with cold calling, letters, etc... Actually started a fight with Edcon about this, since they have my ID number, linked to my ex's name, and pointing to my new address... thus queried them! All you get is some bull**** excuses. But they also mentioned the fact that they send the ID numbers to the credit bureau to get updated addresses. Who is this credit bureau they are talking about? Is there only a single one in the country? Who is the responsible person for this bureau? 'cause I really want to nail these bastards this time! :mad:
 

vxv

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Have been having the same problem with cold calling, letters, etc... Actually started a fight with Edcon about this, since they have my ID number, linked to my ex's name, and pointing to my new address... thus queried them! All you get is some bull**** excuses. But they also mentioned the fact that they send the ID numbers to the credit bureau to get updated addresses. Who is this credit bureau they are talking about? Is there only a single one in the country? Who is the responsible person for this bureau? 'cause I really want to nail these bastards this time! :mad:
www.itc.co.za. I can't believe they sold our details.
 
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