Gigabyte Mobo problems :(

[|tera|]

Aloha

I've got a gigabyte GA-K8NF-9 rev 1, AMD 64 3000+, 120GB Seagate SATA HDD,1GB Dual channel Hynix memory DDR400(two 512mb double sided, both have Vantec Ice berg heatspreaders), 300WATT PSU,DVD-Writer, Xp pro.

The problem I'm having is strange, in my BIOS I've got a setting called "top performance", before I added the extra 512mb ram I experienced a fast pc with "top performance" enabled. If I enable top performance with the dual channel setup the system speed is degraded beyond comprehension. I have learned to keep that setting disabled,

I've got the latest BIOS revision installed F11. I find that my overall system speed has decreased with the dual channel setup. I don't have heating problems on the system, my cpu runs a cool 32degrees celcius most times and I don't experience errors or windows issues either. The main thing is system speed. I have not tried removing one ram stick, both are the exact same model and specification. I've had this dual channel setup for the past 6 months. I don't know if it's my mind playing around, but I can feel the system is not as responsive as it was previously.

There's another setting in the BIOS where you can choose what type of ram you use, if I choose Adata/Hynix, it says 256mb below the option, so I've got that setting set to AUTO. If I set it to Adata/Hynix I don't encounter a performance increase or decrease. All my system settings or performance settings are default, or either AUTO. The system is not overclocked and the ram timings are default and AUTO aswell.

What can I do to increase speed on this system, do I have a bottle neck somewhere? Is it possible for a revision 2 motherboard to have a revision 1 BIOS? I am not sure where to check my motherboard revision, I have always updated the revision 1 BIOS.

Thanks for the help everyone, I hope I was clear enough in my attempt.
If I wasn'tt you can always flame me

 

[Nokkie]

i'm thinking gigabyte may be going backwards and msi ,ecs boards are taking the leads

 

[|tera|]

Actually not hey, I haven't had any problems with this system, only responsiveness, it could be my HDD aswell, it feels like it loads ages off the HDD, but again, no errors, bad sectors or anything. I like gigabyte

 

[killadoob]

personally i stopped buying gigabyte boards for my clients and have gone back to asus

far less problems now

 

[|tera|]

Got any ideas to give me killa ?

 

[killadoob]

im not sure of your setup but check if your 300w psu is doing the job firstly (most than likely is)

other than that i dont know, maybe reset to default and see what happens

to be honest i went from single to dual channel and doesnt seem to be much difference in speed

i think its another marketing genius

 

[AntiThesis]

Sometimes there are vast differences between dual and single channel and sometimes not. It's like some people notice a huge difference between 500mb and 1gb of ram.

I've never had issues with Gigabyte really. This current one kicks ass. I don't know what else you can try besides reverting to default/giving your pc a good solid formatting teraside.

 

[killadoob]

ya formatting is not a bad idea

 

[|tera|]

I have formatted previously after the ram installation, makes no difference. But at least I got a reply on this thread. More than I could say about international forums

 

[lilDeath]

so wat nou heh, wat nou!!!!

 

[|tera|]

Dankie jou klien liefie

 

[lilDeath]

Maybe download some tools to run speed tests on your different computer components?
Test each component seperately, cpu, RAM, hdd, ide, psu, fans, etc.
See if anything comes back glaringly obvious....

Otherwise flash the mobo again, or roll back to another revision?

Isn't there a mobo diagnostic utility for yours?

IMO this type of problem is a pain in the @ss, good luck

 

[freeek]

Asus ftw! (even though I have a MSI)

 

[AntiThesis]

Yeah look, don't scap your gigabyte quite yet. They really are fantastic motherboards most of the time. Just the odd one doesn't go so well (or that has been my experience anyways). Like lil says, maybe get some speed tests and go through everything with a fine tooth comb. That way you'll hopefully see something very specific to help you out.

Oh and the reason why you got replies here and not in international is because we rock pants. Absolute pants.

 

[sdd]

Aloha

I've got a gigabyte GA-K8NF-9 rev 1, AMD 64 3000+, 120GB Seagate SATA HDD,1GB Dual channel Hynix memory DDR400(two 512mb double sided, both have Vantec Ice berg heatspreaders), 300WATT PSU,DVD-Writer, Xp pro.

The problem I'm having is strange, in my BIOS I've got a setting called "top performance", before I added the extra 512mb ram I experienced a fast pc with "top performance" enabled. If I enable top performance with the dual channel setup the system speed is degraded beyond comprehension. I have learned to keep that setting disabled,

I've got the latest BIOS revision installed F11. I find that my overall system speed has decreased with the dual channel setup. I don't have heating problems on the system, my cpu runs a cool 32degrees celcius most times and I don't experience errors or windows issues either. The main thing is system speed. I have not tried removing one ram stick, both are the exact same model and specification. I've had this dual channel setup for the past 6 months. I don't know if it's my mind playing around, but I can feel the system is not as responsive as it was previously.

There's another setting in the BIOS where you can choose what type of ram you use, if I choose Adata/Hynix, it says 256mb below the option, so I've got that setting set to AUTO. If I set it to Adata/Hynix I don't encounter a performance increase or decrease. All my system settings or performance settings are default, or either AUTO. The system is not overclocked and the ram timings are default and AUTO aswell.

What can I do to increase speed on this system, do I have a bottle neck somewhere? Is it possible for a revision 2 motherboard to have a revision 1 BIOS? I am not sure where to check my motherboard revision, I have always updated the revision 1 BIOS.

Thanks for the help everyone, I hope I was clear enough in my attempt.
If I wasn'tt you can always flame me

Heres a couple of pointers from my side:

1. I assume that you have inserted the RAM in the correct slots during dual channel operation. READ YOUR MANUAL AGAIN. Have you put them in the slots away from the cpu?
Did you try putting the whole gig on single channel?

2. Run memtest on ram .... I think the second ram module may be faulty.

3. Flash bios again. Do a long cmos clear and retry.

4. What gfx card u running? Although your PSU is adequate (if it is a good brand) I would definitely recommend you upgrade your power supply some time in future.

5. Oh yes. Jus tto make sure that your mind is not playing tricks on you ... I would run 3dmark06 with pc setup with one 512mb and then with 1 gig dual channel.

Lastly, although the fault finding entails a lot of work, I is worth it. You will learn a lot about your system.

sdd

 

[|tera|]

Thanks lilDeath Killadoob, Antithesis & sdd. I appreciate it & Aspersie and freeek

I took out the ram, it was closest to the cpu and put it to the other dimms. As luck would have it, I don't have a single cd or stiffy to run diagnostics, could you recommend any windows based apps that are actually good?

Didn't notice a performance increase yet, I have a suspision it could be the HDD, is it normal for a HDD to make that crrrr crrrr noise when accessing files or opening programs?

Thanks for the yelp, yelp some more please

 

[mic_y]

well, that depends on how loud the ccrrrr noise is. My system is pretty silent, and I am runnign 2 seagates in RAID 0 so when reading, I can hear quite a lot of noise. another idea is to get a nice defrag util, not the windows k@k, and run that (try O&O defrag, or perfectdisk). Could also help...

 

[|tera|]

I use O&O defrag it's the best there is, thanks for the help! I'm glad to know Seagates are like that.

 

[|tera|]

Heres a couple of pointers from my side:
1. I assume that you have inserted the RAM in the correct slots during dual channel operation. READ YOUR MANUAL AGAIN. Have you put them in the slots away from the cpu? sdd

Okay okay I've got a confession to make. This little subliminal message from sdd did the trick I thought I'd get some more reply's to increase speed, but my selfishness didn't pay off

Thanks sdd, btw. Why should it be away from the cpu, the manual says differently, do I have a broken ram slot? It's not the perfect speed I was hoping for, but I am satisfied now, gave it a good defrag and it's much more responsive.

Thanks to all you guys, thanks sdd

 

[FleRoY]

Come on man...MASTER?
damb!! waar kry jy die patience om so baie posts te tik?
Ek sien nou hoekom jy van die site hou...
Moet ek ook in eng type??
Sonder om van die subject af te klim, hoeveel windows services run met startup?
As jy baie **** laai op jou system laai check ek meer en meer win services begin met startup run om win meer compatible met die nuwe software en stuff te lat run en dan voel dit of jy n performance leak het.

Check bietjie ek kan verkeerd wees.
my AMD hardloop nou sweet **** met meeste services disabled.
Cheers