Give them some of it back

Donovan

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Sentech love assigning ticket numbers. They believe it makes us feel like something is actually being done.

So, tonight, when I queried why all P2P traffic is capped at 2kB/s for me, I assigned *THEM* a ticket number. They replied and I refuse to deal with them unless they quote thier ticket number (the one that I assigned).

I also treat them like they treated me when I signed up - like a criminal. They almost didn't give me a rebate due to "user logs" (LOL OMG they keep logs? OH NOES! Yeah right), so I demanded audited copies and suddenly I'm getting the 60% refund I asked for (comes to around R 1200).

Just a trick guys. Treat them like sheet. They deserve it. Tell them outright that they are a disgrace. Tell them outright that they are cnuts (been there done both of those). Threaten them. If nothing else, it makes you feel a bit better.
 

gripen

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excellent idea. we should have our own ticketing system. then we can assign them incrementing tickets as well. us vs them.

and to think you were a reseller. eish.

**Patented <b>64kbps</b> carrier pigeon clipped wing technology**
 

Perdition

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&lt;grandpa&gt;
Yeah I remember back in the day, the 2004 Sentech Ticket War... those were rough times, I... I don't like to think about it.
&lt;/grandpa&gt;

Yes I have too much time on my hands [;)]
 

loosecannon

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i think this is a brilliant idea ... hehe all myadsl members assigning sentech tickets ... but we must make sure we follow up on them ...

&lt;myadsl&gt;hi there im calling in connection with ticket XXXX
&lt;support&gt; OMG you called me back thank you for such wonderfull service
&lt;myadsl&gt;unfortunately the news is not all good
&lt;support&gt; sorry to hear that what is wrong
&lt;myadsl&gt; you have been judged incapable of independant thought and spouting off managements lies/half truths ...
 

Donovan

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by greedyflyza</i>

and to think you were a reseller. eish.

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It's unethical for me to sell something that doesn't work properly, and it also helps to actually get paid for for that you do without threatening legal action to keep you selling it.
 

Donovan

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Here is an email I sent them dealing with their nonsense (I'm mad as all hell because my connection was working fine before today and now it's slow)


Hello once again,

I will reply to your message bit by bit, but firstly, do not patronise me with cut and paste replies. I may not be a qualified IT professional, but I do have enough knowledge to know that a staggering 4.26kbps is not acceptable on a 128kbps package. That is an absolute load of nonsense and a blatant lie. I can understand that during the day speeds may be low due to businesses (and everyone) being online, but let’s face the facts. On a dialup modem you get up to 7kBytes/second, with speeds averaging 5kB/s even during the day (I can prove this to you). On sentech’s 128kbps service, you get a possible maximum of 16kBytes/s but in reality it’s 2kB/s (I can prove this to you too).

Now to reply to your message:

&gt; While I can understand the frustrations that you are having
&gt; with the speeds on the MyWireless Product, it is important
&gt; to remember several facts regarding the product before
&gt; judging what is "acceptable bandwidth"
I don’t care at all what you think acceptable bandwidth is. I am your customer, and your customer is always right – even when you think he isn’t. Why would I pay R 650 a month only to get LESS than I did when I was on telkom dialup? I’d like to see your logic in that. Explain why your adverts list the product as a 128kbps package if you’re only going to give 4.26kbps? That is false advertising which equates to lying. I believe you already have several complaints with the ASA against you.

&gt; Firstly the product operates on a shared bandwidth
&gt; platform, as advertised, which means that you are paying
&gt; for a shared service, not a guaranteed service.
I am not stupid, I do know this applies to all ISPs in South Africa. However, why is it that all other ISPs, while not guarenteeing it, are able to maintain speeds higher than you do on slower analogue modems (that don’t disconnect whenever the wind blows)?


&gt; This means that there is a contention ratio placed on the
&gt; product which will come into play and reduce the amount of
&gt; available bandwidth. This contention ratio will affect all
&gt; internet services, being http, ftp, p2p, etc.
For a contention ratio to come into effect, first of all it will affect ALL OF MY SERVICES. WHY DON’T YOU READ MY EMAIL AS I SAID THE PROBLEM IS ONLY WITH P2P, even when used with many sources, INSTEAD OF SENDING ME A CUT AND PASTE EMAIL. Secondly, every user will need to be maxing out his or her connection for it to become noticeable. Are you trying to tell me that every single other user is downloading at full speed all the time? I don’t think so.

&gt; All of this is stated in the Service Level Agreement, the
&gt; Terms and Conditions and the Acceptable Useage Policy all
&gt; of which you agree to accept on signing your contract.
I was not made aware of your service level agreement during the signup process, nor was I made aware of your acceptable usage policy before signing the contract. This makes these contractually invalid, as even first year basic law subjects at university will tell you that unless your client both is aware of and fully UNDERSTANDS your contract or part thereof, the contract may be declared invalid, even if it is signed. Your AUP document was only recently put onto your web site.

A reply to this message and my questions, that is not a copy and paste effort but with real valid answers, is compulsory.

Regards,
Donovan





&gt; From: MyWireless Support &lt;mywireless@sentechsa.com&gt;
&gt; Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 08:39:18 +0200
&gt; Cc: &lt;cwilsnagh@sentech.co.za&gt;
&gt; Subject: Re: P2P too slow
&gt;
&gt; Good Day Donovan,
&gt;
&gt; While I can understand the frustrations that you are having
&gt; with the speeds on the MyWireless Product, it is important
&gt; to remember several facts regarding the product before
&gt; judging what is "acceptable bandwidth"
&gt;
&gt; Firstly the product operates on a shared bandwidth
&gt; platform, as advertised, which means that you are paying
&gt; for a shared service, not a guaranteed service.
&gt;
&gt; This means that there is a contention ratio placed on the
&gt; product which will come into play and reduce the amount of
&gt; available bandwidth. This contention ratio will affect all
&gt; internet services, being http, ftp, p2p, etc.
&gt;
&gt; Contractually when the contention ratios are applied, in a
&gt; worse case scenario your bandwidth can get as low as
&gt; 4.26kbps on the 128kbps package. This is the service that
&gt; is offered and provided that you are receiving that
&gt; bandwidth or above, Sentech is contractually meeting it's
&gt; obligations.
&gt;
&gt; All of this is stated in the Service Level Agreement, the
&gt; Terms and Conditions and the Acceptable Useage Policy all
&gt; of which you agree to accept on signing your contract.
&gt;
&gt; Regards
&gt; Tristan
&gt; Sntech Support
&gt; 0860 736 832
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 22:05:09 +0200
&gt; Donovan John Cairney &lt;donovan@cairney.co.za&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt; Hello,
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; First of all, well done. It seems that the speeds with
&gt;&gt; HTTP downloads and
&gt;&gt; browsing have come right – please keep it that way.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; HOWEVER, p2p and any similar file transfer services are
&gt;&gt; too slow. THIS IS
&gt;&gt; NOT ACCEPTABLE AND MUST BE FIXED NOW, if not then you
&gt;&gt; guys are opening
&gt;&gt; yourself up to a flood of lawsuits because your adverts
&gt;&gt; list you as
&gt;&gt; unlimited broadband. This is not unlimited, nor
&gt;&gt; broadband. I do not want to
&gt;&gt; hear any excuses (4kbps is not acceptable on a 128kbps
&gt;&gt; package, I am not
&gt;&gt; stupid), just fix the problem or remove the speed cap.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Thank you,
&gt;&gt; Donovan.
&gt;
&gt;
 
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Dean_Henstock

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by the way, developing a ticking system you can all logon to my web site, get the ticket number and then everyone can see how many tickets there are

Keep Surfing
 

gripen

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cool.

donovan, the AUP was there from the beginning. Im not sure if it has been amended but one would think not. Its only recently that they started making a noise about it to cover their own a$$ses.

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guest2013-1

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greedyflyza, the AUP might have been with us from the beginning, but as I stated months ago, I never signed nor read the AUP before I got MW and neither did anyone reference it or let me know about it only AFTER I signed the contract....

Hell, my gran on a scooter with a memory stick is faster than Sentech's MyWireless!
 
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