Government declares war on power wastage

I have no objection to having solar panels installed in new houses. They're far more affordable now than they were before. As long as government helps with subsidies to pay for them. I was under the impression that our meters were so called "smart meteres" years ago.

Does anyone know if its possible to sell excess power back to Eskom for the national grid when its not needed?
 
Cadavre777 : The guavamint will give you a 20 or 30% subsidy on a system that from what I can see is average around R12000, and will give you an energy saving of maybe R200 pm, if you're REALLY lucky.

Does that sound like a viable option for you?

And no its not possible to sell excess power back to Eks-dom, as they have refused to even entertain that option, blerry short sighted morons.
 
Wanna tell me the whole country is deteriating within not even a MONTH, and now SUDDENLY, the Government declares war on power wastage??
 
Rationing is not so bad as long as it's done fairly. Get people to use yellow flourescent light bulbs more, get people to turn off equipment when they're not using it, put
insulation around geysers, turn indoor lights off in unoccupied rooms. You only have
to drive through the more expensive suburbs to see that most houses are lit up
like Christmas trees on the inside and outside. Turn 90% of these lights off. How
difficult is that? 20W Halogen lamps - sometimes about 30 blazing away the whole night
(that doesn't count the power lost in the transformation process - the transformers heat up like kettles - you're probably loosing 50W or more per 20W bulb.

Force Refrigerator, TV and other appliance manufacturers to produce equipment with lower power consumption. Penalise THEM if they don't. They won't raise
prices too quickly as overall the cost of technology is dropping as are the sales anyway. Offer import duty rebates as incentives.
 
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PeterCH said:
Rationing is not so bad as long as it's done fairly. Get people to use yellow flourescent light bulbs more, get people to turn off equipment when they're not using it, put
insulation around geysers, turn indoor lights off in unoccupied rooms. You only have
to drive through the more expensive suburbs to see that most houses are lit up
like Christmas trees on the inside and outside. Turn 90% of these lights off. How
difficult is that? 20W Halogen lamps - sometimes about 30 blazing away the whole night
(that doesn't count the power lost in the transformation process - the transformers heat up like kettles - you're probably loosing 50W or more per 20W bulb.

Force Refrigerator, TV and other appliance manufacturers to produce equipment with lower power consumption. Penalise THEM if they don't. They won't raise
prices too quickly as overall the cost of technology is dropping as are the sales anyway.
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I hear you, but look at all the s*it we have to go through because of an inadequate govt...:mad:
 
Robin Hood said:
I hear you, but look at all the s*it we have to go through because of an inadequate govt...:mad:
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Why? Because your electricity bill will go down for one. Which
means less profit for Eskom execs.
More importantly you're saving the environment too.
 
PeterCH : I completely agree with you on getting more efficient appliances, but since I've just spent a boat load on a new fridge, stove, oven, microwave. They will be in use for another 10 or so years before I replace them, whereupon efficiency will be one of the top things on my list of requirements.
 
ToxicBunny said:
PeterCH : I completely agree with you on getting more efficient appliances, but since I've just spent a boat load on a new fridge, stove, oven, microwave. They will be in use for another 10 or so years before I replace them, whereupon efficiency will be one of the top things on my list of requirements.
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I'm not saying you should replace your equipment. However there are people
buying new appliances all the time either as first time buyers or to replace their old used up appliances. Those people would now be buying equipment
with maybe slightly reduced power consumption. That's all I'm saying. I don't believe anyone should have to repurchase anything, but as you know
things break down all the time and you will have to buy new things at sime time or another - when you do, it would be better if they were just a little
more enegry efficient.
 
Yeah I know...

Sorry in my usual un-roundabout way, I missed out a bit of my point....

If the government does start forcing manufacturers to produce more efficient appliances, there is a HUGE chance (esp in this corrupt country) that they will attempt to force home owners to purchase these new appliances, and for me, that is when I start to have a problem...

(hope that makes my stance a little bit more clear :) )
 
If newer stuff is phased in, in a planned manner, then yes it will work. If we have the usual knee jerk panic decisions taken without proper thought as to the full repurcussions and alternatives, then it will not work.

Solutions must offer a win win scenario, where one side feels victimized the solution will fail
 
The old diesel locomotive fleet is being hauled out of mothballs and rehabilitated, to reduce the railways' dependence on electricity.
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lol.

One - the trains barely function
Two - Sasol has been told to cut back, so where will the fuel come from?
Three - Gautrain anyone? Going to run that on diesel now?
Four - just what, if anything, is left of those trains?
 
Moederloos said:
lol.

One - the trains barely function
Two - Sasol has been told to cut back, so where will the fuel come from?
Three - Gautrain anyone? Going to run that on diesel now?
Four - just what, if anything, is left of those trains?
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They are most probably oxide-red coloured and have 'Suid Afrikaanse Spoorweg' logo's on them. :-D

Steam trains anyone? :D:D
 
bekdik said:
Solutions must offer a win win scenario, where one side feels victimized the solution will fail
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That seems the sensible response, but how do you not feel victimised when someone else screws up and you have to pay for the solution - while they just award themselves more bonuses ?
 
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