Government employees face salary cuts to help fund Eskom

TysonRoux

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Probably not, but they all benefited from it.. that's mos the standard cry how every single white is responsible for apartheid even if you were anti-apartheid like Zille or born post 1994.

Also, there's a simple metric showing that Eskom is overstaffed, people per megawatt, comparing with other electricity companies should indicate how many personnel on average it takes to deliver a megawatt. Easy, non decolonized figure to show your effectiveness against your peers. LOL, what is our BEE flagship's ratio again?
In addition, the ESKUM maintenance departments are fully staffed with lazy incompetent employees, and as a result pay independent private companies to do the work.
 

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Someone still has to pay the debt these entities currently hold. I don't see too many private companies stumbling over themselves in their haste to take over Eskom's 500billion Rand debt.

Can they not sell the power stations to private companies, and then use the proceeds to pay off the debt?
 

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Idiotic union person said:
“Any talk of cutting salaries and benefits will be met with hellfire,” said Public Servants’ Association deputy general manager Tahir Maepa.

“What we should be doing is to arrest and recover lost revenue and hold those responsible for this accountable.”
How exactly would anyone manage to "recover lost revenue"?
Does this person intend to travel back in time and effect changes in the future?

Presumably this person meant to say that he wants the Guptas and Zumas to be arrested and the money they stole to be recovered.

I absolutely agree that these and others responsible for corruption must be prosecuted (in absentia where necessary) but people need to realise that their pipe dreams about money being recovered are premature and flaccid.

The problem is that recovering even a small fraction of the money that was lost to corruption would cost more money than would be recovered.

Rather concentrate on stopping corruption as much as possible and as quickly as possible to make sure that the country isn't bled dry even further.
 

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Lol fun read. It's obvious who here works for the government
 

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Can they not sell the power stations to private companies, and then use the proceeds to pay off the debt?
Doubt their worth would cover all that debt. They would have to take a loss and have the public shoulder the balance
 

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Doubt their worth would cover all that debt. They would have to take a loss and have the public shoulder the balance

We are doing that at any event.

Better to sell the loss making entity and take a once of knock. Currently the SOEs are burning money with no end in sight.
 

j4ck455

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Can they not sell the power stations to private companies, and then use the proceeds to pay off the debt?
I doubt that there would be any private companies wanting to spend good money on money sucking power stations that Eskom has not maintained for decades, and the newer power stations are probably already in need of a maintenance overhaul.

The other issue for private companies is that they don't have Eskom's clout to negotiate reasonably priced coal contracts for these power stations.

Those and a bunch of other issues.
 

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Probably not, but they all benefited from it.. that's mos the standard cry how every single white is responsible for apartheid even if you were anti-apartheid like Zille or born post 1994.

Also, there's a simple metric showing that Eskom is overstaffed, people per megawatt, comparing with other electricity companies should indicate how many personnel on average it takes to deliver a megawatt. Easy, non decolonized figure to show your effectiveness against your peers. LOL, what is our BEE flagship's ratio again?
So you thought you would join in on the stupidity as well?
 

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In addition, the ESKUM maintenance departments are fully staffed with lazy incompetent employees, and as a result pay independent private companies to do the work.
It has nothing with being lazy and incompetent, yours is a lazy and an incompetent way of thinking, if you spent a little more time thinking about it you would see the reasons. Many other companies spend money on private contractors, it's not just Eskom.
 
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It has nothing with being lazy and incompetent, yours is a lazy and an incompetent way of thinking, if you spent little more time thinking about it you would see the reasons. Many other companies spend money on private contractors, it's not just Eskom.
I spent a moment thinking about it and realised that you must be pushing the other corruption that is BEE instead of getting the lazy and incompetent Eskom employees to do the jobs they are already paid to do.
 

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Couldn't they do some sort of shares thing. Where is the most important crucial parts are privately run. Then the profit gets split 50% private 50% guvament, surely that is it's better than the huge failure it is now?
 

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I spent a moment thinking about it and realised that you must be pushing the other corruption that is BEE instead of getting the lazy and incompetent Eskom employees to do the jobs they are already paid to do.
Seen right through the deflection.

Many successful companies use contractors for certain tasks, but they don't at the same time pay a fully staffed company department that are meant to perform those same tasks.
 

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You are even dumber than I gave you credit for. Your reply was in me saying your suggestion would collapse the public sector
and your reply shows me why you work in the public sector ... not enough IQ for anything more challenging ...

how about you stop leeching off MY tax money? k thanks bye!
 

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Surprised nobody mentioned the most practical solution. Freeze salaries (no increases) for 1 or 2 years of every politician and employee of all state owned enterprises and government department including municipalities.

given that our municipality vote themselves an above inflation increase every 5 minutes this sounds like a plan I could live with.
 

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Eskom staff received bonus twice last year, but other government employees has to have their salaries cut. Why don't they cut eskom salaries by 25%, I'm sure that would bring much more relief to the country. The execs that cause this sht should have their salaries halved, and those cnts in parliament that enabled the thieving bastards.

The execs (and top government people) that cause this **** are long gone. The ones there now are either incompetents who want to loot further, or people who have to try and fix the mess. How would you entice those people to stay without a decent package?
 

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The execs (and top government people) that cause this **** are long gone. The ones there now are either incompetents who want to loot further, or people who have to try and fix the mess. How would you entice those people to stay without a decent package?

That's another perspective yes. All in all this is just a massive fck up.
 

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If I remember right, the South African politicians are paid just over 1 Trillion Rand annually! One Trillion is 1.000.000.000.000 Is that correct? Do you think the politicians serve you well? What is needed to save Eskom again? You do the maths.
 

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If I remember right, the South African politicians are paid just over 1 Trillion Rand annually! One Trillion is 1.000.000.000.000 Is that correct? Do you think the politicians serve you well? What is needed to save Eskom again? You do the maths.

what?!

how much is the total budget for south africa in 2019?
 
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