Government employees face salary cuts to help fund Eskom

[TheChamp]

Why would it have been that high in the first place? Unless it was made high because friends and family was placed there.

How much is the going rate for chefs?

 

[ToxicBunny]

Those salaries are bonkers..

No wonder people would rather work in the Public Sector than the Private Sector....

 

[ToxicBunny]

How much is the going rate for chefs?

High end quality chefs can be doing R1m a year... but that is for high end fine dining stuff...

 

[doubletrouble]

How much is the going rate for chefs?

Probably depends which area they work in. I would imagine these chefs need to be able to cater for heads of states etc. So the salary would be at the 90th percentile

 

[doubletrouble]

Those salaries are bonkers..

No wonder people would rather work in the Public Sector than the Private Sector....

That is what the state is trying to do though. become an employer of choice. Its supposed to be so they can attract the best staff. The thought behind it is fine.. the application I dunno

 

[ToxicBunny]

That is what the state is trying to do though. become an employer of choice. Its supposed to be so they can attract the best staff. The thought behind it is fine.. the application I dunno

The thought may be fine, but the application is clearly fscked up.

The state as a whole should never be the employer of choice in my opinion, in small isolated pockets yes, but overall no.

 

[doubletrouble]

The thought may be fine, but the application is clearly fscked up.

The state as a whole should never be the employer of choice in my opinion, in small isolated pockets yes, but overall no.

agreed.

 

[Craig_]

How much is the going rate for chefs?

Fcked if I know, but I doubt it's that high. Waiters are definitely not that high though.

High end quality chefs can be doing R1m a year... but that is for high end fine dining stuff...

I should've become a chef then. Holy hell, that's a lot of money.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Fcked if I know, but I doubt it's that high. Waiters are definitely not that high though.



I should've become a chef then. Holy hell, that's a lot of money.

Thats after many many many years of working 18+ hours a day..

The 2 chefs in that bracket that I know of basically had (and still have) no life.... the sacrifice is not worth the money in my opinion.

 

[Blue Shirt]

It is well known that the salary bands in the public service have been compressed in line with the socialist policies of the cANCer govt. This means that junior staff are being paid significantly higher salaries than private sector equivalents, while more senior staff salaries are mostly lagging.

This happened after years of labour unions forcing higher salary increases for junior staff compared to senior management. This year, salary bands for junior staff were increased by 7%, while those earning >R1m/yr received only 3% and if you earn >R1.5m/yr, a big fat zero %.

Due to there being many thousands of junior staff, the perception is that public sector salaries are very good. This is certainly not the case with senior management. The only possible exception may be very senior executives, where the salaries (>R2m/yr) are competitive with private sector. If they were not, the public sector would have no hope of attracting any talent in senior executive positions.

 

[RonSwanson]

It is well known that the salary bands in the public service have been compressed in line with the socialist policies of the cANCer govt. This means that junior staff are being paid significantly higher salaries than private sector equivalents, while more senior staff salaries are mostly lagging.

This happened after years of labour unions forcing higher salary increases for junior staff compared to senior management. This year, salary bands for junior staff were increased by 7%, while those earning >R1m/yr received only 3% and if you earn >R1.5m/yr, a big fat zero %.

Due to there being many thousands of junior staff, the perception is that public sector salaries are very good. This is certainly not the case with senior management. The only possible exception may be very senior executives, where the salaries (>R2m/yr) are competitive with private sector. If they were not, the public sector would have no hope of attracting any talent in senior executive positions.

Exactly. That's why we have SOEs have crazy average salary scales, and why they are such popular employers, filled with incompetent workers.

 

[TheChamp]

It is well known that the salary bands in the public service have been compressed in line with the socialist policies of the cANCer govt. This means that junior staff are being paid significantly higher salaries than private sector equivalents, while more senior staff salaries are mostly lagging.

This happened after years of labour unions forcing higher salary increases for junior staff compared to senior management. This year, salary bands for junior staff were increased by 7%, while those earning >R1m/yr received only 3% and if you earn >R1.5m/yr, a big fat zero %.

Due to there being many thousands of junior staff, the perception is that public sector salaries are very good. This is certainly not the case with senior management. The only possible exception may be very senior executives, where the salaries (>R2m/yr) are competitive with private sector. If they were not, the public sector would have no hope of attracting any talent in senior executive positions.

I thought it was the opposite? Teachers for example are not earning more than their private counterparts?

All along my understanding has been that it is the senior employees who are overpaid pushing the averages up.

 

[doubletrouble]

I thought it was the opposite? Teachers for example are not earning more than their private counterparts?

ever seen what a teacher gets paid who is on a government body contract?

 

[doubletrouble]

Exactly. That's why we have SOEs have crazy average salary scales, and why they are such popular employers, filled with incompetent workers.

@Craig

 

[TheChamp]

ever seen what a teacher gets paid who is on a government body contract?

No, how many of them are on this government body contract compared to those who aren't?

 

[Craig_]

@Craig

Not completely untrue. There are many incompetent morons. Not all of them are though.

 

[porchrat]

I thought it was the opposite? Teachers for example are not earning more than their private counterparts?

All along my understanding has been that it is the senior employees who are overpaid pushing the averages up.

Government body teachers get paid way more and get better perks like medical aid and housing allowances.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

I should've become a chef then. Holy hell, that's a lot of money.

It's actually not a lot for a job that requires extraordinary hours and for you to be on your feet all the time. Probably inclusive of bonuses too, and you'd have to be at the top tier...

 

[TheChamp]

Government body teachers get paid way more and get better perks like medical aid and housing allowances.

Okay, see post#135

 

[Corelli]

Persuade the people from Soweto, that Eskom would need to fire half, to lower there electricity costs.

Then the union will have to choose between making more union members unhappy or just getting rid of the bad few for the greater good.