Government outlines laws on hiring of foreigners

[spiff]

to be replaced with robots in the near future

 

[DreamKing]

That is strange. Why would a company pay more when they could pay half for the same skills?

because of racist?

 

[rietrot]

The government's place to stop foreigners from entering the country is atthe border. Restricting their access to jobs is ass backwards.

 

[BBSA]

If you want to see it as that, sure.

Forcing a minimum wage does the opposite, and has been proven time and time again. You are taking away money you could have used for expansion and will need to get less workers to do more work in order to keep up with inflation.

I never said increasing minimum wage is the answer, you came up with that gem all by yourself. I think you need a bit of study in Micro and Macro economics...

I'll give you a hint, why do the Reserve Bank drop interest rates if growth is below target?

Your logic is still BS. It is much better for our economy to have 100 people earning R2 500 than 10 people people earning R 5 000.

 

[spiff]

Your logic is still BS. It is much better for our economy to have 100 people earning R2 500 than 10 people people earning R 5 000.

that depends if the money stays local or leaves the country?

 

[konfab]

Can't take you serious with this little gem ^^

I was being snarky.

 

[BBSA]

that depends if the money stays local or leaves the country?

Sure, but the workers must eat so they will spend a lot locally.

 

[Pitbull]

Your logic is still BS. It is much better for our economy to have 100 people earning R2 500 than 10 people people earning R 5 000.

Only if those 100 people can work for R 2 500, feed their family and still get to work. If not, it's better for them to get R 1 700 in the form of a Grant and are a drain on the economy.

You know this, I think you're playing dumb on purpose though...

Like I said, go delve a bit in Micro and Macro economics

 

[surface]

Government outlines laws on hiring of foreigners | The Citizen

Employers may consider hiring a foreign national when all submitted local applications do not satisfy their minimum requirements.

citizen.co.za

HAHAHA. I am glad I bought citizenship already. And our ex-zimbabwean domestic bought hers as well
/sarcasm in case someone misses

 

[ɹǝuuᴉM]

Reminds me of a previous government , where we had to go to the Dept. of bantu affairs and they would give us people to hire we were unable to hire people of the street or advertise 1970s and 80s .

Nothing wrong with that. At least employers knew who they are employing. In today's South Africa you can employ anyone of the street, and then, after your wife got raped or kilked, find out he is a murder suspect out on R500 bail!

 

[WaxLyrical]

We need economic growth in which our people are the primary beneficiaries.

It's called a social grant.

 

[Tokolotshe]

The government's place to stop foreigners from entering the country is atthe border. Restricting their access to jobs is ass backwards.

There we are.

Border control. Appropriate visas; visit, holiday, business, student, work, ....

The current approach is just making government failure the responsibility of business owners. Heavens knows, business owners are already overburdened by red tape, so let's add a bit more. Add the efficiency of government, we have a sure recipe for disaster.

Some thoughts:
On the salary issue, it goes towards loyalty. Would it be twisted if I use the old adage 'If you pay peanuts you get monkeys' ?

On the qualification issue: A 30% matric certificate or a 50% matric certificate?

 

[Milano]

Can we back up a bit. What types of visas do these foreigners hold? Are they referring to people with visas? Are these people illegally in SA? Is it even actually still considered illegal to be in SA without a visa? Then in the US there are something like 14 million+ undocumented people. If you talk about removing them it is almost considered tantamount to genocide. Since that is the case then why not just open borders? Or give them papers. Or deport them. What changed that made it impossible for governments to have a policy anymore?

 

[Drifter]

That is strange. Why would a company pay more when they could pay half for the same skills?

Under the table commission.

 

[surface]

Under the table commission.

Makes sense as I cannot think of any local company who will resort to this.

 

[ForceFate]

Nothing wrong with that. At least employers knew who they are employing. In today's South Africa you can employ anyone of the street, and then, after your wife got raped or kilked, find out he is a murder suspect out on R500 bail!

Nothing stops you from recruiting through the department of labour.

 

[Tokolotshe]

Nothing stops you from recruiting through the department of labour.

Like they will vet people? They can't even vet themselves.

 

[acidrain]

Shouldn't be approving asylum applications so easily then. As long as the person is legal to work, I don't see how it is any of their business.

 

[ForceFate]

Like they will vet people? They can't even vet themselves.

I doubt the people he's referring to go through all the trouble of filling up forms. More so if they're undocumented.

 

[Milano]

Interesting read. Basically mass removal of undocumented people has come to be seen as a crime against humanity. Although it was never really the intended original premise behind the international statutes, it had been reinterpreted and redefined to include the mass removal of illegals or undocumented people. Whether it is actually legally defined hardly matters as social outrage is more powerful than law.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/10/deportation-as-a-crime-against-humanity/