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Hamish McPanji
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Yup, that's the main reason to oppose it
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Government wants one big mobile network for everyone
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MickeyD
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Where does it say in the White Paper that ONLY "government" will be running it?
Hamish McPanji
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We didn't read the white paper. This is MyBb, we know everything
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MickeyD
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Reminder to not troll in news sections...
Arthur
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The objection is not that it's run by the gov - it needn't be and it isn't even proposed. There are plenty of private interest that are more than willing to get a slice of the action.
Who runs it is just a distraction from the even more fundamental question of who owns it and who controls it.
It's the difference between owning your own property and being a tenant.
Who runs it is just a distraction from the even more fundamental question of who owns it and who controls it.
It's the difference between owning your own property and being a tenant.
Yep .
Vodacom and MTN will defend their edge with every thing they have and rightly so that is the way business is , who would give their access on their towers to all and sundry .
This reminds me of LLU not going to happen or if it does it will be kicking and screeming by MTN and vodacom .
ToxicBunny
Oi! Leave me out of this...
On the face of it, I'm not totally against the idea...
I have not read through the White Paper yet, but I can assume there will be control issues that will need to be ironed out. It will be disastrous if the government is the one with the ultimate final control over something like this in my opinion.
I have not read through the White Paper yet, but I can assume there will be control issues that will need to be ironed out. It will be disastrous if the government is the one with the ultimate final control over something like this in my opinion.
MickeyD
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That is a real concern and much more detail is required about the OAN "joint venture".
This should not be the sole focus of what is in the White Paper. Hopefully it will put to bed the issue of facilities leasing and/or LLU as well.
It does address the wayleave issue where municipalities are delaying permission to network operators from building networks... a typical example is CoCT, where CoCT are wanting to build their own network and lease it out. Very anti-competitive!!
It also snookers SANRAL and other State agencies who won't allow you onto "their" properties. Long haul operators cannot get access to the road reserve without SANRAL's approval... and that is problematic.
Haven't read it but if they mean own the medium & infrastructure on top of which mobile operators provide services then I'm all for it.. the current model used is dumb for servicing people and efficiently using the limited spectrum.
Ie more open to competition on mobile side this way. I think this will bring in competition thick and fast as up front coats will be a lot less
Ie more open to competition on mobile side this way. I think this will bring in competition thick and fast as up front coats will be a lot less
Yes little krycor, but that works in a NORMAL country. not one where the govt is hellbent on stealing money for themselves and their cronies i'm afraid.
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I would like someone to point out how the government is stealing money from SAL, SABC, the PO, Infraco etc. All of the state owned enterprises are practically bankrupt and running at a loss, no money to steal.
so who will pay for the equipment and who will implement upgrades and with who's money and when.
this seems like a possibility for a lot of red tape, long time to make decisions on roll outs, many many users affected.
who will have access to the equipment? log a ticket and wait?
this seems like a possibility for a lot of red tape, long time to make decisions on roll outs, many many users affected.
who will have access to the equipment? log a ticket and wait?
km2
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While conceptually I'm not opposed to the idea, I vastly value good execution over good ideas, and government hasn't impressed with good execution even in what should be "known" fields like education and electricity. Look at something like the NBN in Australia and the politics and backtracking surrounding that, the waffling between FttP vs FttN, the purchase of an HFC network and then the plan to scrap it, I could imagine it going even worse in South Africa where the government doesn't have tons of cash to just splash around trying to get it right. If moving from analog TV to digital TV is this hard, how ugly is the move from 4G to 5G services going to be if it's run by the same crowd?
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wingnut771
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True.. but one wrong doesn't justify the other (despite what u see on Gauteng freeways
). If The big 2 (3) were really interested they could form their own Mobile infrastructure company and have it all running before govt gets ball rolling pretty much like the banks did.. but that means more sudden death with profits and exposure on profit margins so yah.. rock and a hard place