Govt planning commission proposes emergency strategy to speed up new solar, wind plants

[ToxicBunny]

Govt planning commission proposes emergency strategy to speed up new solar, wind plants | Business

The National Planning Commission has called for an "energy emergency" to end load shedding within the next two years. The plan calls for the construction of 10,000MW of solar and wind power and 5,000MW of battery storage to be built urgently

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[ToxicBunny]

So other than the Environmental and Water Use aspects, why have these things not been done already?

The NERSA online form should take 2 or 3 days at most to develop and put into production if its only for database purposes.
The other 2 items should take no more than a phone call to make happen.

The other thing that would be stupidly easy to implement is to remove all duties and taxes attached to solar panels and power system components (even the retarded 10% customs levy on things, and even possibly VAT).

 

[PhireSide]

So other than the Environmental and Water Use aspects, why have these things not been done already?

The NERSA online form should take 2 or 3 days at most to develop and put into production if its only for database purposes.
The other 2 items should take no more than a phone call to make happen.

The other thing that would be stupidly easy to implement is to remove all duties and taxes attached to solar panels and power system components (even the retarded 10% customs levy on things, and even possibly VAT).

Because it's easier to have a commission to organise an indaba to arrange an inquiry to put into action an investigation to look into talking about it than it is to actually do something about it.

 

[Neuk_]

So other than the Environmental and Water Use aspects, why have these things not been done already?

The NERSA online form should take 2 or 3 days at most to develop and put into production if its only for database purposes.
The other 2 items should take no more than a phone call to make happen.

The other thing that would be stupidly easy to implement is to remove all duties and taxes attached to solar panels and power system components (even the retarded 10% customs levy on things, and even possibly VAT).

'One does not simply enter a thoroughbred race with a donkey.' - Boromir

 

[Kola-CT]

Fantastic... a planning commission instead of a planning committee...we are saved!

 

[ToxicBunny]

Because it's easier to have a commission to organise an indaba to arrange an inquiry to put into action an investigation to look into talking about it than it is to actually do something about it.

Oh I know that, but for a party and president that is vaguely concerned about the backlash that the party is experience because of their own incompetence, you'd think they'd take a few "easy" wins that are largely inconsequential to actually make.

 

[PhireSide]

Oh I know that, but for a party and president that is vaguely concerned about the backlash that the party is experience because of their own incompetence, you'd think they'd take a few "easy" wins that are largely inconsequential to actually make.

Factional infighting would be my guess.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Factional infighting would be my guess.

Yup, Party before Country.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

Govt planning commission proposes emergency strategy to speed up new solar, wind plants | Business

The National Planning Commission has called for an "energy emergency" to end load shedding within the next two years. The plan calls for the construction of 10,000MW of solar and wind power and 5,000MW of battery storage to be built urgently

www.news24.com

6th wave (lockdowns) soon?

 

[Vrotappel]

It will take the ANC two years just to talk about this.

 

[notayoba]

So other than the Environmental and Water Use aspects, why have these things not been done already?

The NERSA online form should take 2 or 3 days at most to develop and put into production if its only for database purposes.
The other 2 items should take no more than a phone call to make happen.

The other thing that would be stupidly easy to implement is to remove all duties and taxes attached to solar panels and power system components (even the retarded 10% customs levy on things, and even possibly VAT).

Because something that takes 2 or 3 days to develop doesn't rain hundreds of millions upon cadres.

In the end, about 3 years from now, 2 guys in a small dev shop somewhere will develop it in 2 or 3 days. For maybe R80k. The person sending them the work will be getting R7m, and he in turn would have gotten it as a sub contractor to the main cadre that got R200m.

Ask me how I know:

In 2004 I was part of the 2 man dev shop doing something for the education department. We got something like 70k. Person who send us the work got well over a million, and couldn't even open excel on his fancy laptop. He had BEEEEE qualifications up the wazoo though.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Because something that takes 2 or 3 days to develop doesn't rain hundreds of millions upon cadres.

In the end, about 3 years from now, 2 guys in a small dev shop somewhere will develop it in 2 or 3 days. For maybe R80k. The person sending them the work will be getting R7m, and he in turn would have gotten it as a sub contractor to the main cadre that got R200m.

As me how I know:

In 2004 I was part of the 2 man dev shop doing something for the education department. We got something like 70k. Person who send us the work got well over a million, and couldn't even open excel on his fancy laptop. He had BEEEEE qualifications up the wazoo though.

Yeah I know that happens, way too frequently and its not necessarily unusual to SA.. governments all over the world are overcharged for products and services, its just taken to an absurd level in this country.

 

[notayoba]

Yeah I know that happens, way too frequently and its not necessarily unusual to SA.. governments all over the world are overcharged for products and services, its just taken to an absurd level in this country.

As long as there has been governments and politicians there's been skimming off the top. The operational words being 'skimming' and 'off the top'. Our clowns seem to take the bulk, and then leave some coins for the actual work to happen. If it happens at all.

Edit: The Freestate government website comes to mind. IIRC it was something like R300m, and the developer gave them a $20 WordPress template with a couple of pages of content, hosted on a tiny server.

 

[ToxicBunny]

As long as there has been governments and politicians there's been skimming off the top. The operational words being 'skimming' and 'off the top'. Our clowns seem to take the bulk, and then leave some coins for the actual work to happen. If it happens at all.

Edit: The Freestate government website comes to mind. IIRC it was something like R300m, and the developer gave them a $20 WordPress template with a couple of pages of content, hosted on a tiny server.

Even in other parts of the world, its not really skimming.. can be 100%+ of the cost, but yeah we seem to work on a base rate of nothing less than 5000% of the cost for "corruption"

 

[ItherNiT]

Just imagine how we can solve the power issue if we lift the bbbeee requirements and open up the solution to the international players.

We might even be able to get a sweet time frame like Australia got from Elon.

 

[porchrat]

There's a committee proposing a strategy now?

Oh boy! Things are getting serious now!

Transformers are burning outside... and we're still on committees. Nothing concrete on the ground actually being built?

 

[ToxicBunny]

There's a committee proposing a strategy now?

Oh boy! Things are getting serious now!

Transformers are burning outside... and we're still on committees. Nothing concrete on the ground actually being built?

No, Gweezy needs to figure out how he can get a portion directed towards his well deserved retirement fund first.

 

[wingnut771]

So other than the Environmental and Water Use aspects, why have these things not been done already?

The NERSA online form should take 2 or 3 days at most to develop and put into production if its only for database purposes.
The other 2 items should take no more than a phone call to make happen.

The other thing that would be stupidly easy to implement is to remove all duties and taxes attached to solar panels and power system components (even the retarded 10% customs levy on things, and even possibly VAT).

All of the Country's problems are stupidly easy to fix.

 

[ToxicBunny]

All of the Country's problems are stupidly easy to fix.

Many of them would be yeah.. or at least the start of fixing them is stupidly easy, for anyone with half a clue.

 

[wingnut771]

..

In 2004 I was part of the 2 man dev shop doing something for the education department. We got something like 70k. Person who send us the work got well over a million, and couldn't even open excel on his fancy laptop. He had BEEEEE qualifications up the wazoo though.

Here we go folks, this is what BEE/AA is for.