Gran denies claim she paid healer with jewellery worth R1m to bring back lost lover

[schumi]

Durban - A desperate 74-year-old Avoca grandmother who was in pain, turned to traditional healers to cure her.

But she was conned of her jewellery and accused of trying to bring back a lost lover.

At the start of a trial in the Durban Magistrate’s Court on Friday, Bhagwanti Gobind, 74, testified she was conned. Jewellery, including family heirlooms worth more than R1 million, was stolen.

One of the items, she said, included the wedding ring given to her by her husband 53 years ago.

The accused, Charlie Sadie Leketa, who Gobind knew as Abdul, was charged with fraud and theft.

His alleged co-accused, who she knew as Yusuf, cannot be located.

Gobind denied the allegation about procuring their help to bring back a lost lover, asking the court: “What lover are they talking about?” She said that, in 2016, she suffered from body sickness and teeth problems, and could barely move.

She saw an advert about a traditional healer and, out of desperation to get better, called the number.

“The next day a man named Yusuf came over to my house. He said he needed heavyweight jewellery for prayer, so I gave him my wedding jewellery. He said he would take the jewellery to the beach, where he would pray with it to the ancestors to make me better,” said Gobind.

Yusuf returned to her home the next day and told her the jewellery was not heavy enough and he needed more.

“I gave him more and the next time he came, I gave more. Each time he came to my home I would give him more and more jewellery. He would always say he would return the jewellery once the prayer was complete. He came about six or seven times to my home. At one stage, I even borrowed from my husband’s sister and gave it just so I could be cured.”

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[nightjar]

Her fantasy is no different to believing in a 6000 year old earth, global flood, virgin birth etc and SA has a lot of wealthy pastors who continue to score big time.

 

[Willie Trombone]

Her fantasy is no different to believing in a 6000 year old earth, global flood, virgin birth etc and SA has a lot of wealthy pastors who continue to score big time.

Not sure what fake pastors have to do with it. Conmen don't prey on the religiously inclined, they prey on the desperate.

 

[TysonRoux]

"healer" - is that a new name for witch doctor?

 

[ForceFate]

Not sure what fake pastors have to do with it. Conmen don't prey on the religiously inclined, they prey on the desperate.

They prey on people's desperation. They preach miracles to attract desperate masses. It's the same thing with people who expect "lost lovers" (whatever that is) to return.

 

[Grant]

It's the same thing with people who expect "lost lovers" (whatever that is) to return.

it's the "short boys" i'm curious about

 

[nightjar]

Not sure what fake pastors have to do with it. Conmen don't prey on the religiously inclined, they prey on the desperate.

When you think about it, religion's a con job and the preachers are laughing all the way to the bank because they have sold the suckers something now in exchange for something after death with no danger of any comebacks.

All pastors are conmen who prey on the religiously inclined with Benny Hinn standing out more than most. Others who spring to mind are L.Ron Hubbard, Richard Roberts, Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, Ted Haggard, Douglas Goodman,, Charles Taze Russell & Joseph Smith, to name only a few.

Here in SA, we have our own collection of equally predatory con artists who have an unlimited supply of gullible fools eating grass, being sprayed with Doom and getting raped, not forgetting those who ended up donating their body parts in order to swell the church numbers.

 

[ShaunSA]

74 years old and she never learnt anything about life.

 

[ForceFate]

74 years old and she never learnt anything about life.

She may have grown up in rural areas. There weren't many conmen in her time. Rural life is so laid back people don't have problems accommodating a total stranger in their homes overnight.

 

[Tokolotshe]

Pity we don't have anybody enforcing Sect 42 of the CPA 2008.

 

[WaxLyrical]

They prey on people's desperation. They preach miracles to attract desperate masses. It's the same thing with people who expect "lost lovers" (whatever that is) to return.

Desperate and dumb, because non desperate people still check horoscopes, read tarot cards and other rituals.

 

[Solarion]

Her fantasy is no different to believing in a 6000 year old earth, global flood, virgin birth etc and SA has a lot of wealthy pastors who continue to score big time.

Nowhere in The Bible does it say hand your wealth to someone and you will be healed. You are like a lot atheists who attempts to go for a cheap and nasty double whammy by mashing biblical stories and con-artist pastors together. What this does is let the crooked pastors and ignorant people off of the hook.

Not even Richard Dawkins does this because he knows it's insincere and undermines his arguments.

 

[nightjar]

Nowhere in The Bible does it say hand your wealth to someone and you will be healed. .....

Quite right but most of the faithful actually have no idea what the bible says other than what they hear parents or preachers tell them and it would never occur to them to question anything that their pastor stated as fact.

To give an example, I was born a Catholic and grew up in a Jesuit boarding school where the housemaster was a 24 carat bastard. Despite his extensive education he believed and taught that all men had one less rib than women because, according to Genesis, God took a rib from Adam to make Eve. This gem of information was handed out during his warnings about the dangers of masturbation. I doubted him at the time but knew that any questions would earn a beating so I simply kept quiet and checked elsewhere.

Many churches demand tithes (10% of gross earnings) from the congregation and demand pay slips for verification.

In February 2019 pastor Alph Lukau of Alleluia Ministries supposedly brought a man back to life. Benny Hinn has been “healing” people on stage for years.

These guys are incredibly wealthy because they simply tell their followers what they want to hear irrespective of weather or not it is in the bible.

 

[Tokolotshe]

Quite right but most of the faithful actually have no idea what the bible says other than what they hear parents or preachers tell them and it would never occur to them to question anything that their pastor stated as fact...

Sorry to hear about your 24 carat bastard. But let's play a little game. So this lady was stupid for believing something people were warned against. You yourself use your past experiences to go the opposite way. Who's laughing at you since you were warned? Matthew 7:15, Matthew 24:24, Jeremiah 23:16 etc?

Anyway, not going to get into a debate to mirror the other thread, as apparently there are more than enough zealots either side of the fence. I believe what I do, refuse to believe what I don't.

But I'll leave you with this: https://electrodealpro.com/a-temple...become-a-monk-preaching-buddhism-to-visitors/ - it's about power and money.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[nightjar]

..... - it's about power and money.

That sums up religion and the sad part is that it's fueled by people who can't or won't think for themselves.

 

[Tokolotshe]

That sums up religion and the sad part is that it's fueled by people who can't or won't think for themselves.

I guess you're the type that reads chapter 1 and 2 of a book, then claims you've read the book.

I'll leave you with a pun: The Devil's in the details

 

[Acid0]

Maybe they gave her the wrong muti, she must check if her new member has grown........


But on a serious note, why dont they just phone these adverts that is super glued to all posts and boxes and arrest them for false advertising and conmen.

 

[ShaunSA]

She may have grown up in rural areas. There weren't many conmen in her time. Rural life is so laid back people don't have problems accommodating a total stranger in their homes overnight.

Growing up in a rural area has nothing to do with conmen sense.

 

[ForceFate]

Growing up in a rural area has nothing to do with conmen sense.

It's the same as tourists from low crime countries stopping around Carlton Centre and taking out their expensive cameras to take pictures.

It starts with small time conmen pretending to be disabled to what the lady experienced. She may not have been exposed to this growing up.

 

[ShaunSA]

It's the same as tourists from low crime countries stopping around Carlton Centre and taking out their expensive cameras to take pictures.

It starts with small time conmen pretending to be disabled to what the lady experienced. She may not have been exposed to this growing up.

It's almost as if you're determined for people to be stupid