Green Scorpions recommend criminal charges in Karpowership deal

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Criminal charges in powership deal

The Green Scorpions have recommended that criminal charges be laid against Karpowership SA for intentionally misleading the Department of Forestry, Fisheries, and the Environment (DFFE) in its bid to secure a R225-billion deal to supply power to South Africa's grid.

According to amaBhungane, the environmental protection unit referred a docket to the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) to prosecute the company for its attempt to circumvent environmental regulations.
 
The Green Scorpions have recommended that criminal charges be laid against Karpowership SA for intentionally misleading the Department of Forestry, Fisheries, and the Environment (DFFE) in its bid to secure a R225-billion deal to supply power to South Africa’s grid.
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What about those in the government that sanctioned these deals?
 
konfab said:
Those ships are better for the environment than the coal power stations that Eskom runs.
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I'm sure that is the case if you put the ships where the existing coal power plants are. But that isn't what will happen. These ships will be put in places with low or no environmental destruction, and then cause the environmental destruction. Destroying a 2nd environment just because the ship has cleaner emissions than existing coal power stations doesn't make it right.
 
SilverCode said:
I'm sure that is the case if you put the ships where the existing coal power plants are. But that isn't what will happen. These ships will be put in places with low or no environmental destruction, and then cause the environmental destruction. Destroying a 2nd environment just because the ship has cleaner emissions than existing coal power stations doesn't make it right.
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It is fairly limited though, and will not have any permanent effects once they go.
Environmental protection groups have claimed the ships will generate underwater noise that will disrupt sea life and fishing in the areas where they planned to moor.
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And its hardly if the transport hubs that these ships will be docked at are environmental havens.
 
Notwithstanding the environmental issues, this organisation just seems to come with tons of bad news. The best solution was allowing smaller builds of energy in solar, wind, and other renewables. Takes pressure off the grid.
 
konfab said:
It is fairly limited though, and will not have any permanent effects once they go.


And its hardly if the transport hubs that these ships will be docked at are environmental havens.
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Actually most of them are, and those havens and such are very heavily monitored and protected.

There is a fundamental difference between having ships come in and out over the course of a day and moor with engines off, and having a ship moored for 20 years churning out noise pollution into the water for the vast majority of the day.
 
Death said:
It's a deal with Government. There is no way in hell that a deal of such great Rand Value has not got corruption built into it. The fact that a Turkish company had to be BEEE compliant says it all.
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mypetcow said:
Somehow it feels like almost everyone is getting rather emotional with that multi billion annual cost while missing the point of the power ship.

The power ship will provide Eskom with power at the cost of $0.11/kWh which is pretty much R1.65/kWh (total cost, i.e. including maintenance, etc.). It’s purpose is to add capacity to the grid.

Guess who will get that power and use it? Yes, everyone in SA. So it’s not like Eskom is just putting multiple billions of rand in a suitcase to sail off into the sunset. That power is sold to you the end user and to industry at probably something higher than R1.65/kWh. So for those of us who are already paying more than R2.00/kWh this will leave Eskom with a bit of profit so they can put that into maintenance of existing plants.

Everyone wins. Loadshedding is reduced and Eskom doesn’t need to invest in expensive infrastructure (for now) and additional maintenance of new plants.
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RedViking said:
You clearly have a lot of faith in Eskom. And loadshedding has been carrying on for years and years, the last I checked. And it is far from over.

I bet you, it is not going to be sunshine and roses as you think. If they do go ahead with this, bookmark this comment, You are in for a "suprise".


I am more than willing to accept I was wrong. But as far as governments track record is going working with our money, they going to mess this up, and they WILL find a way to enrich themselves instead in the process and corruption will shine bright like a candle.

Of course in theory it is supposed to all go perfectly to plan.... I mean, what possibly can go wrong..... Haha

I have zero reason to think anything they touch or plan will have a long term positive effect.

History has proven that.

I know I am pessimistic. I have zero reason not to be.
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Still not convinced this is going to turn out well.
 
Isn't the local consortium already R180m in the red attempting to secure the deal? Ouch
 
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