Haval/GWM Cars

konfab said:
Nearly had someone roll into me because their electronic handbrake decided that it was time to release.
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Which car was that? That doesn't sound right. I have an electronic handbrake and it does activate by itself in certain circumstances, but that is times when it should. It has never deactivated on it's own. I had become so used to it that I in fact miss it when driving my wife's car.
 
Cr419 said:
Which car was that? That doesn't sound right. I have an electronic handbrake and it does activate by itself in certain circumstances, but that is times when it should. It has never deactivated on it's own. I had become so used to it that I in fact miss it when driving my wife's car.
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It was a while back, but it was a Renault iirc. It was either broken or the driver was playing around with the throttle/clutch and the computer thought it was time to let off.

Then again it's not as if people with normal handbrakes do perfect hill starts all the time.

It probably is my bias towards mechanical simplicity over convenience. When I drive my car, I don't really think about how great it would be if I didn't have to use the handbrake.

That and the handbrake saved my life when the regular brakes on the car I was driving(Land rover Discovery) decided to get all British on me and fail when I was driving at 80.
 
konfab said:
It was a while back, but it was a Renault iirc. It was either broken or the driver was playing around with the throttle/clutch and the computer thought it was time to let off.

Then again it's not as if people with normal handbrakes do perfect hill starts all the time.

It probably is my bias towards mechanical simplicity over convenience. When I drive my car, I don't really think about how great it would be if I didn't have to use the handbrake.

That and the handbrake saved my life when the regular brakes on the car I was driving(Land rover Discovery) decided to get all British on me and fail when I was driving at 80.
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On that Renault he was probable sitting with his foot on the accelerator, if you do that the car thinks you are pulling off and releases, idiot. Otherwise it's just a nice to have. I will actually have to check if you can stop the car the same way with the electronic handbrake, I've never thought of that before.
 
China's Haval Motors to bring new SUVs to SA

The 2017 Shanghai Auto Show is well and truly underway. Over the course of two days, journalists from around the world could get a glimpse of what will shape the Asian automotive industry. Haval Motors, China’s number one SUV brand, made its intentions for the South African car market very clear; its models will arrive in SA later in 2017.

End of GWM

Many SA consumers and motorists will recall Great Wall Motors (or GWM as they were better known). GWM is a subsidy of Haval Motors and entered the South African market under that name a few years ago. Due to escalating import costs and its mother company wanting to explore other markets, it was decided that the marque will be re-branded Haval Motors.

The reason? A universal name for all the markets the automaker will be selling its products in.

In China, its home market, Haval Motors is the number one SUV and in 2017 hopes to garner that title in other nations, including South Africa.

SA is rich with brand-loyal customers and it will be an lengthy challenge for Haval to change public’s perception of Chinese vehicles.

Haval Motors South Africa has announced that the two products it plans on bringing to market in 2017 - the H2 and H6 Coupe - will be "competitively priced". The badging on the available models will be in either red or blue; with the latter being the sportier derivative.

The initial models destined for SA:

Haval H2

Boasting a length of 4.3m and a height of 1.69m, the H2 is anything but compact. The SUV is powered by a a 1.5-litre turbo engine that develops 110kW/210Nm, while power is sent to the front wheels via either a six-speed manual or a seven-speed ZF gearbox. Keen observers will note that ZF, the company that manufactures automatic gearboxes for the likes of BMW and Jaguar Land Rover, now also provides ‘boxes to Haval for both the H2 and H6 Coupe.

If experiences with aforementioned premium brand's transmissions are anything to go by, Haval has found itself a very good and reputable drivetrain partner.

Though the exact specification for the South African market needs to be finalised, consumers can expect to find - among a vast list of features - some, if not all, of the following in the H2:

- Stop/Start system;
- Automatic headlamps and wipers;
- Sunroof;
- Blind spot alert;
- Steering wheel mounted controls;
- Steering wheel mounted gearshift paddles;
- Keyless entry/go;
- Six-way electrically adjustable driver seat;
- A car locating function; and
- Dual-zone automatic air conditioning.

Launch date: May 2017


Haval H6 Coupe

One of the first things petrolheads will point out about the H6 Coupe is that it doesn’t exactly look like a coupe; Designers should have more added a more sloping roofline. Nevertheless, this is a relatively compact SUV; with a width and height of 1.7m and 1.8m respectively. It's likely to go up against the likes of the Hyundai Tucson and Kia Sportage, but Haval is adamant that its model will stand toe-to-toe with any SUV in this category.

The H6 Coupe is driven by a 2.0-litre petrol engine that develops 145kW/315Nm. The same gearbox options as used in the H2 are on offer. Haval says that this SUV will top out at 190km/h.

The H6 offers the same features as the H2, but adds:

- Hill hold control (HHC);
- Hill descent control (HDC);
- Eight-way electrically adjustable driver seat;
- Four-way electrically adjustable front passenger seat;
- Heated seats at the front;
- Side airbags;
- Tyre pressure monitoring system;
- Reverse camera;
- Automatic headlight levelling system; and
- A refrigerator; among a host of other features.

Though the South African line-up still needs to be confirmed, the “standard” H6 is available with two petrol engines: a naturally-aspirated 2.4-litre (120kW/210Nm) unit and the same 1.5-litre that is found in the H2. A 2.0-litre diesel option with 110kW/310Nm rounds out the engine lists.

The 2.4-litre sends its drive to the front wheels via a four-speed automatic transmission. The 1.5-litre and diesel engines are available with a six-speed manual gearbox in both 2WD and 4WD. The 1.5-litre also offers a 2WD six-speed automatic option.

The standard H6 is already available to the Chinese market, but it remains to be seen whether it will reach South African shores some time in future.

H6 Coupe launch date: Third quarter 2017


Haval HB-03

The big highlight for Haval Motors was the unveiling of its HB-03; a hybrid SUV with properly sporty looks. Information on this model is a scare but Haval says that it signifies the future direction of the company. It's perhaps one of the most exciting designs to come out of China and the SUV is squarely positioned as a lifestyle vehicle.

There is no doubt that this model will go into production but whether it will reach South Africa is unlikely at this stage.

Interestingly, if the HB-03 shows hints of looking like a BMW X6, then you won’t be too far off. The man responsible for designing the X6, Pierre Leclerq, is Haval Motors’ design director and the HB-03 is his creation.

http://www.wheels24.co.za/NewModels/Motor_Shows/chinas-haval-motors-to-bring-new-suvs-to-sa-20170420
 
I know someone that still has his original GWM Double-cab that he purchased from the time they've launched. The engine still runs as smooth as ever but it's just the quality of the faux-leather interior that can be off-putting.
 
I saw a GWM ad on Facebook saying the H5 is back on the market again after it was off for a while. Don't see it on they're site yet - wonder if they're waiting for the site to be rebranded for Haval
 
FiestaST said:
China's Haval Motors to bring new SUVs to SA

The 2017 Shanghai Auto Show is well and truly underway. Over the course of two days, journalists from around the world could get a glimpse of what will shape the Asian automotive industry. Haval Motors, China’s number one SUV brand, made its intentions for the South African car market very clear; its models will arrive in SA later in 2017.

End of GWM

Many SA consumers and motorists will recall Great Wall Motors (or GWM as they were better known). GWM is a subsidy of Haval Motors and entered the South African market under that name a few years ago. Due to escalating import costs and its mother company wanting to explore other markets, it was decided that the marque will be re-branded Haval Motors.

The reason? A universal name for all the markets the automaker will be selling its products in.

In China, its home market, Haval Motors is the number one SUV and in 2017 hopes to garner that title in other nations, including South Africa.

SA is rich with brand-loyal customers and it will be an lengthy challenge for Haval to change public’s perception of Chinese vehicles.

Haval Motors South Africa has announced that the two products it plans on bringing to market in 2017 - the H2 and H6 Coupe - will be "competitively priced". The badging on the available models will be in either red or blue; with the latter being the sportier derivative.

The initial models destined for SA:

Haval H2

Boasting a length of 4.3m and a height of 1.69m, the H2 is anything but compact. The SUV is powered by a a 1.5-litre turbo engine that develops 110kW/210Nm, while power is sent to the front wheels via either a six-speed manual or a seven-speed ZF gearbox. Keen observers will note that ZF, the company that manufactures automatic gearboxes for the likes of BMW and Jaguar Land Rover, now also provides ‘boxes to Haval for both the H2 and H6 Coupe.

If experiences with aforementioned premium brand's transmissions are anything to go by, Haval has found itself a very good and reputable drivetrain partner.

Though the exact specification for the South African market needs to be finalised, consumers can expect to find - among a vast list of features - some, if not all, of the following in the H2:

- Stop/Start system;
- Automatic headlamps and wipers;
- Sunroof;
- Blind spot alert;
- Steering wheel mounted controls;
- Steering wheel mounted gearshift paddles;
- Keyless entry/go;
- Six-way electrically adjustable driver seat;
- A car locating function; and
- Dual-zone automatic air conditioning.

Launch date: May 2017


Haval H6 Coupe

One of the first things petrolheads will point out about the H6 Coupe is that it doesn’t exactly look like a coupe; Designers should have more added a more sloping roofline. Nevertheless, this is a relatively compact SUV; with a width and height of 1.7m and 1.8m respectively. It's likely to go up against the likes of the Hyundai Tucson and Kia Sportage, but Haval is adamant that its model will stand toe-to-toe with any SUV in this category.

The H6 Coupe is driven by a 2.0-litre petrol engine that develops 145kW/315Nm. The same gearbox options as used in the H2 are on offer. Haval says that this SUV will top out at 190km/h.

The H6 offers the same features as the H2, but adds:

- Hill hold control (HHC);
- Hill descent control (HDC);
- Eight-way electrically adjustable driver seat;
- Four-way electrically adjustable front passenger seat;
- Heated seats at the front;
- Side airbags;
- Tyre pressure monitoring system;
- Reverse camera;
- Automatic headlight levelling system; and
- A refrigerator; among a host of other features.

Though the South African line-up still needs to be confirmed, the “standard” H6 is available with two petrol engines: a naturally-aspirated 2.4-litre (120kW/210Nm) unit and the same 1.5-litre that is found in the H2. A 2.0-litre diesel option with 110kW/310Nm rounds out the engine lists.

The 2.4-litre sends its drive to the front wheels via a four-speed automatic transmission. The 1.5-litre and diesel engines are available with a six-speed manual gearbox in both 2WD and 4WD. The 1.5-litre also offers a 2WD six-speed automatic option.

The standard H6 is already available to the Chinese market, but it remains to be seen whether it will reach South African shores some time in future.

H6 Coupe launch date: Third quarter 2017


Haval HB-03

The big highlight for Haval Motors was the unveiling of its HB-03; a hybrid SUV with properly sporty looks. Information on this model is a scare but Haval says that it signifies the future direction of the company. It's perhaps one of the most exciting designs to come out of China and the SUV is squarely positioned as a lifestyle vehicle.

There is no doubt that this model will go into production but whether it will reach South Africa is unlikely at this stage.

Interestingly, if the HB-03 shows hints of looking like a BMW X6, then you won’t be too far off. The man responsible for designing the X6, Pierre Leclerq, is Haval Motors’ design director and the HB-03 is his creation.

http://www.wheels24.co.za/NewModels/Motor_Shows/chinas-haval-motors-to-bring-new-suvs-to-sa-20170420
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Bad idea, they are just starting to get a foolhold in the market and gaining a good reputation, slowly but surely. Nobody knows Haval.
 
Cr419 said:
Bad idea, they are just starting to get a foolhold in the market and gaining a good reputation, slowly but surely. Nobody knows Haval.
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My thoughts exactly, it's not unheard of for a brand to trade under different names in different markets, Honda is also known as Acura in American markets and it's doing fine.
 
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thechamp said:
Nothing wrong with the brand, the nasty stories you've heard are most probably hearsay and we've all heard them about many car brands. GWM is one of the best Chinese brands and they've been around for a long time now.
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The hearsay caught up with my neighbor when the engine seized.
POS poor quality car still.
 
thechamp said:
And many GWM's are still running around, we don't know why your neighbour's car engine seized.
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I had a corolla engine seize in 2014. Doesn't mean Toyota's are unreliable. **** happens. If it happens with most of their cars, then it's a whole different story.
 
Back when GWM just launched here in SA, someone enquired about them as fleet vehicles. He decided to ask on forums as Googling GWM did not return any applicable results. Turns out GWM back then returned results for "Gay White Male":D I still cant drive past a man in a GWM and not think about this.

Anyway, only been in a GWM once, a cousin of mine's Hover. Sitting in the passenger seat, I could look straight through the gap between body and door, staring at the tar. Did not leave a good impression of a new vehicle.
 
Lord Farquart said:
Back when GWM just launched here in SA, someone enquired about them as fleet vehicles. He decided to ask on forums as Googling GWM did not return any applicable results. Turns out GWM back then returned results for "Gay White Male":D I still cant drive past a man in a GWM and not think about this.

Anyway, only been in a GWM once, a cousin of mine's Hover. Sitting in the passenger seat, I could look straight through the gap between body and door, staring at the tar. Did not leave a good impression of a new vehicle.
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Hover is their RWD Suv? it looked good from outside...
 
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