Helen Zille suspends IRR fellowship as she vies for powerful DA Federal Council chairperson post

[Milano]

Remind me again what was the STATE policy back then?

Explain how that justifies it..

 

[TheChamp]

Haha, but if that's the case what could he (Maimane) possibly have had to do that was more important?

I accept, my reasonable explanation has flaws.

 

[3WA]

Explain how that justifies it..

The apartheid government is the gold standard for the ANC.

(Aspect of government that the ANC is failing in) - yes, but it was worse under apartheid.

As long as they're ahead of the nats, they're happy.

 

[JustAsk]

I am positive Maimane's race was just a wonderful coincidence.

Yeah. The problem is many people don't seemed to know how these structures really work. The Federal Council or NEC holds the real power. The leader (of the party) is just the glorified CEO. He hokds the executive power...which pretty much make him/her the bitch. Your job is just to execute, we just give you a "leader" title to fool the voters. You do what we tell you to do, or else we have the power to remove you through legal processes. Same structure as corporate.

 

[TheChamp]

Yeah. The problem is many people don't seemed to know how these structures really work. The Federal Council or NEC holds the real power. The leader (of the party) is just the glorified CEO. He hokds the executive power...which pretty much make him/her the bitch. Your job is just to execute, we just give you a "leader" title to fool the voters. You do what we tell you to do, or else we have the power to remove you through legal processes. Same structure as corporate.

I am sure it was different when Helen was still running the show, she was pretty much able to do what she wanted, she was able to get her preferred candidate installed as a party leader.

 

[JustAsk]

Explain how that justifies it..

Explain why you seemed to have a problem with a state banned organization not allowing the very oppressor they fight to be in their elected leaders, but seemingly don't have a problem with the state policy at the time?

 

[ForceFate]

Explain how that justifies it..

They didn't want the "enemy" infiltrating their decision making bodies perhaps?

 

[Milano]

Explain why you seemed to have a problem with a state banned organization not allowing the very oppressor they fight to be in their elected leaders, but seemingly don't have a problem with the state policy at the time?

Haha. So tell me how Indians and coloureds are oppressors. Meanwhile I will sit back and enjoy watching you trying to spin this one. Guess racism is cool when you support it.

 

[Milano]

They didn't want the "enemy" infiltrating their decision making bodies perhaps?

Simpleton. Read non-black.

 

[ForceFate]

Simpleton. Read non-black.

Weren't they regarded the "enemy" back then?

Edit: There was even a low intensity war going in.

 

[Milano]

Weren't they regarded the "enemy" back then?

No.

 

[JustAsk]

I am sure it was different when Helen was still running the show, she was pretty much able to do what she wanted, she was able to get her preferred candidate installed as a party leader.

Of course, she's part of the cabal.

 

[Milano]

Weren't they regarded the "enemy" back then?

Edit: There was even a low intensity war going in.

Nonsense.

 

[ForceFate]

No.

The Nats were regarded enemies of non-Europeans at the time. Some politicians still use the word but have expanded it to include pretty much everyone.

 

[ForceFate]

Nonsense.

If you say so...
Surely soldiers weren't encamped at villages to protect them?

 

[Milano]

The Nats were regarded enemies of non-Europeans at the time. Some politicians still use the word but have expanded it to include pretty much everyone.

Lorem ipsum?

 

[Milano]

If you say so...
Surely soldiers weren't encamped at villages to protect them?

Check your circuitry.

 

[gottagoon]

Wish I could ask the Madam a couple of questions, what was wrong with DA that it needed transformation? And is the transformation process complete according to her or is there some more transformation that Maimane should continue implementing?

You never stop Champ. You're like an ANC robot. You like to "engage" in a conversation. Nope. You need new glasses. The ANC has stuffed everything and everyone up...and you can't see it

Blind.

 

[JustAsk]

Haha. So tell me how Indians and coloureds are oppressors.

As beneficiaries of black economy empowerment programs, i didn't know they were oppressors. Maybe YOU should explain your straw man.

Guess racism is cool when you support it.

Of course it is. You just prove it.

There's something very wrong with someone having a problem with a nothing burger while there were actual atrocities he could have had a problem with.

 

[MidnightWizard]

The way I see it is that if you are genuinely interested in discovering how the DA operates you will do what I have done and that is pick up any thread that bugs you about your local politics. Are there accusations of corruption that have never been followed through on?

A favourite DA tactic is to make statements in the press about this or that corruption that ALWAYS make them look like they are on the side of right, but they never ever follow through.

It isn't in their interests to get the corrupt person out. They want them in place to do the damage until such time they fark up so royally that the DA can swoop in and capture the town. It is at this point that some other person will take the blame for all the mistakes, poor administration, etc that had occured in such a fashion that no-one stops to ask - where the fark where the DA councillors while all this was going on right under their noses - and a few key personnel will be fired.

There will be mutterings about prosecutions which will never happen. Any reports about any wrongdoing will be mentioned, but never made public. At this point the townspeople have been told so many times about how wonderful the DA are, they swallow all this shite hook, line and farking sinker.

They are so tired of all the crap and ongoing shenanigans that they don't even fight when their electricity, rates, water etc go through the roof - first excuse is 'we have to sort out the outstanding debt', then the next year there is another excuse, and the year after that another 'reason' is given. Meantime nothing is actually run better, you just pay more.

Then the building work starts - under the guise of 'job creation', there will be roadworks, a mall or two, municipal land sold off for a development, RDP houses - all contracts going to their buddies in the construction industry, oh and now the latest is the farking electronic water meters - with subsidiary companies being set up so you don't immediately associate it with the people who put in the water meters in COCT - all of course for your "benefit" - HA!

And they will publish totally bullshit reports about how they have turned the town around after the big bad ANC farked it up (with lots of help from their 'friends') while the residents bleed money in their general direction. All so the DA can ultimate achieve their goal of a little state capture of their own.

Read the news reports - this picture is there to be seen. Look at any town where there has been ongoing jockeying for control of the town between the ANC and the DA for a few years. Go back, read the press reports, read what the DA and then look at what they actually do.

There are examples of everything I have said all over South Africa.

Look at what happens when an ANC run town is put in administration under the DA. Look at the increases the DA introduce as soon as they can.

(ADHD length paragraphs for the internet generation).

Thank you for the paragraphs -- at least it is now readable ( NOTHING to do with Internet OR ADHD )
Unfortunately you do not provide a SHRED of EVIDENCE for your long diatribe ......
I live in a TOTALLY ANC run municipality -- where the fight against corruption is -- lip-service skin deep
In other words the municipality like most others is DYSFUNCTIONAL , in debt for BILLIONS , with non-existent services !
Would you like me to provide the AG reports ?