Help with my first attempt at buying a Car with finance

[Rocket-Boy]

I have virtually owned a Jazz since 2006 for my parents.

I also know 3 other Jazz owners very closely who come to me first for car advice.

And I know one other who just bought a brand new one this year, but that doesn’t count yet.

Needless to say the expensive parts story isn’t a concern. Over their lifetimes these cars more than pay for themselves.

I just wouldn’t advise doing brakes at the dealer; but that is a universal statement across the board generally.

My mom, sister and sister in law all own Jazz's and they are all extremely happy with them.
You can fit so much into those little cars and the ride quality is far better than other cars in the class.

 

[The Voice]

I beg to differ, Honda really goes out of their way to make your life as miserable as possible when it comes to repair time. I appreciate the Honda reliability but they really are a nightmare when it comes to parts, it's like they want to punish you for the whole trouble free kilometers you enjoyed.

Did you know that they don't sell CV joints separately for a Jazz? For some inexplicable reason you have to buy the whole shaft, last time I checked it was over R3000 for a side shaff, you can buy 8 CV joints for a regular hatchback for that. Wear and tear items are also expensive, and you don't just walk into your nearest spare shop and come out with a Honda part.

The point you are making about Golf's breaking all the time is due to the abundance of aftermarket parts some which are of dodgy quality. Hopefully someone who owns a Jazz or any other Honda will chip in with their experiences.

Yeah that's kind of the caveat: Hondas are insanely reliable but if something does go wrong, and you go through a dealer, you're going to kak, especially with something like a Jazz. They just don't keep parts anywhere in SA it seems (not at dealerships anyway). I had to wait 6 weeks for a control arm to arrive from Japan after I had an accident.

It came time to do a service (including clutch) and I sourced the parts myself and took it to a reputable mechanic in the area who sorted it out for me. It was a third of the price of what Honda had quoted me.

I'd say of all dealerships, Honda is probably the worst, which is a pity given how good the brand is. It's almost as if they're doing you this massive favour whenever you need something from them.

 

[epah]

also I tried webuycars don't haggle they see it it as being cheap enough already

Whatever you do, don’t buy from webuycars else you will be here a week later with another “dealer scammed me” thread.

 

[TheChamp]

Whatever you do, don’t buy from webuycars else you will be here a week later with another “dealer scammed me” thread.

As someone has already said, they seem very transparent on the cars they sell a d their prices are reflective of the product.

 

[tRoN]

Suzuki Celerio

It’s an underrated car. Well built. Better than the kwid which dents after a car wash

 

[Jack10210]

Whatever you do, don’t buy from webuycars else you will be here a week later with another “dealer scammed me” thread.

don't worry I will know a lemon when I see one

 

[tRoN]

don't worry I will know a lemon when I see one

Some lemons are not that obvious

 

[Jack10210]

Some lemons are not that obvious

perhaps but at this point at lest webuycars will inform me that it is a lemon and it would up to me to consider their advice or not as at lest they have a breakdown of all their costs unlike a lot of normal dealerships out there

 

[XPD]

Get a 2017+ Honda Brio and be done with it. You can get one with less than 40k Km’s. It will be within your price range, still under warranty (5yr/200k km) and it’s a fairly solid car that should be reliable. I also think it’s way better than kwid/Datsun etc.

As a first car you don’t need any maintence troubles that come with higher mileage cars no matter how reliable they are perceived to be.

 

[Forza]

I'd be more skeptical if a 10 Year old car has less than 100k km.

As mentioned by one of the forumintes, generally low km per year I would say is between 10k km -15k km, so considering the age of the vehicles you are looking at you need to be realistic with age vs km. I would say anything at 150 000km would be considered as low km, just make sure major services has been done.

Maybe look at a Toyota Auris - could maybe get a facelift model 2010 at your budget.

 

[epah]

As someone has already said, they seem very transparent on the cars they sell a d their prices are reflective of the product.

webuycars transparent? Alright

 

[epah]

perhaps but at this point at lest webuycars will inform me that it is a lemon and it would up to me to consider their advice or not as at lest they have a breakdown of all their costs unlike a lot of normal dealerships out there

how would they even know when their cars are literally sold within days or receiving them, they dont spend enough time with each car to even find faults, you only realize a month later as a customer and webuyars tells you to eff off, once you drive off their lot its not their problem anymore.

 

[Jack10210]

Get a 2017+ Honda Brio and be done with it. You can get one with less than 40k Km’s. It will be within your price range, still under warranty (5yr/200k km) and it’s a fairly solid car that should be reliable. I also think it’s way better than kwid/Datsun etc.

As a first car you don’t need any maintence troubles that come with higher mileage cars no matter how reliable they are perceived to be.

I would not touch a Brio if it was the last car on earth to buy as it rubs me the wrong way I can't explain it but I just could never buy the thing ever

 

[genetic]

webuycars transparent? Alright

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. So show us the evidence.

 

[Jack10210]

how would they even know when their cars are literally sold within days or receiving them, they don't spend enough time with each car to even find faults, you only realize a month later as a customer and webuyars tells you to eff off, once you drive off their lot its not their problem anymore.

alright then I can agree to that but at this point I have gone to a lot of dealerships and my options have been very limited to what I can buy as most of the dealership sell cars for 100k and more and I will still have deal with sudden price increases as they try to add on items that they don't want me to notice

 

[Jack10210]

I'd be more skeptical if a 10 Year old car has less than 100k km.

As mentioned by one of the forumintes, generally low km per year I would say is between 10k km -15k km, so considering the age of the vehicles you are looking at you need to be realistic with age vs km. I would say anything at 150 000km would be considered as low km, just make sure major services has been done.

Maybe look at a Toyota Auris - could maybe get a facelift model 2010 at your budget.

from what I have seen so far Toyotas and VWs are either being kept by their first time owners for a very long time or they kept their value so well that I would not be able to afford it here in cape town as the most common Toyota I have come across is the Toyota Yaris and unfortunately its the model where Toyota thought that the instrument cluster should be in the middle of the car instead of the right side or the left making it disconcerting to me when i want to check my current speed

 

[Old_Liver]

I would go with a Honda, I've got a 2010 Civic hatch, some parts are hard to find, but the only things I've replaced are shocks (due to an unfortunate pothole), tie rod ends, stabiliser links, and it was all available at Naskar spares.
Currently on 176000km and still going strong.

I had a 2011 Jazz 1.5 previously, good car, and ample power.

The GF is driving a 2013 Jazz, currently on 125000km, only regularly services, brakes, and tyres. Besides that, not a single issue.

 

[Jack10210]

I would go with a Honda, I've got a 2010 Civic hatch, some parts are hard to find, but the only things I've replaced are shocks (due to an unfortunate pothole), tie rod ends, stabiliser links, and it was all available at Naskar spares.
Currently on 176000km and still going strong.

I had a 2011 Jazz 1.5 previously, good car, and ample power.

The GF is driving a 2013 Jazz, currently on 125000km, only regularly services, brakes, and tyres. Besides that, not a single issue.

Yes I have been hearing same thing from family that have hondas them selves I am going to have look at a 2010 honda I saw online with 104K kms on the clock hopefully it isn't in a too bad state as you can't always trust the pics people and dealership posts these days

 

[GIGZ]

Update, @Jack10210