High Court judge held for drunk driving

[Doges]

High Court judge held for drunk driving

How can we gain respect for the law if this is how Judges behave themselves! Anyway, no points for guessing what qualifications he needed to get the job......

(I had to laugh at this in-duh-viduals comment that he and he's friends only had tea. most likely Long Island Ice Tea! )

 

[Suitegum]

Drunk as a m'lord?

I hope they did a proper blood test on this character.

 

[Syndyre]

He better not get off this, and after the guilty verdict he should be removed from his position.

 

[Freshy-ZN]

Man, he was just trying to follow the example set by Robert McBride!

 

[kingrob]

I'm sure the guys he sent to jail will be happy to see him??

 

[Syndyre]

Man, he was just trying to follow the example set by Robert McBride!

So much for judicial independence!

 

[Syndyre]

I'm sure the guys he sent to jail will be happy to see him??

He'll get off I'm sure. Even if you aren't a judge its usually quite easy to get off with a fine etc. I think.

 

[kingrob]

He'll get off I'm sure. Even if you aren't a judge its usually quite easy to get off with a fine etc. I think.

Yeah, you're right.

Don't think he'll last 5 minutes in jail if one of his 'friends' find out he's there.

 

[bwana]

High Court judge held for drunk driving

How can we gain respect for the law if this is how Judges behave themselves! Anyway, no points for guessing what qualifications he needed to get the job......

(I had to laugh at this in-duh-viduals comment that he and he's friends only had tea. most likely Long Island Ice Tea! )

These days even one strong island iced tea would be enough to put someone over the limit - what I find encouraging is that he was arrested and will stand accountable for his actions.

I'm sure the guys he sent to jail will be happy to see him??

Nobody does time for a dwi unless they're habitual or harm someone.

 

[Syndyre]

Yeah, you're right.

Don't think he'll last 5 minutes in jail if one of his 'friends' find out he's there.

Unless he also suffers from hayfever like Yengeni and has to be confined to a hospital cell.

 

[Sneeky]

A transcript of the discussion revealed a belligerent Motata, who swore freely.

"I know the law. Ja, you mustn't look at me as a black man. Let me go before the law. F*** him. F*** him. Anybody who insults me, I say f*** you."

shame

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=vn20070108000622132C194088

 

[R/SGT]

Bet you anything that his first words to those Metro officers were the ever popular

Do you know who I am​

 

[Natas]

He is a judge so he would probably not have presided over any DUI charges. Those happen in the Magistrates Court. The only way he would have presided over one is if someone was killed in an accident where the driver was DUI-ing...

I would love to be a fly on that wall....Judges don't particulalry like Magistrates because they think they are stupid. Magistrates dont like judges because judges get paid more and they think that the judges look down on them...

The judge will have to appear in the magistrates court and unless someone intervenes there is a good chance that the judge will get seriously crapped on like a child. I like watching magistrates chastize accused mofo's....could be quite interesting...I predict a plea bargain where the judge gets a fine half of which will be suspended for a year or two. Thats actually a standard sentence where there are no agravating circumstances. However, this guy is a judge and is supposed to set an example. That should be taken as an aggravating circumstances but probably wont. If it is, it will only effect the amount of the fine. Dont think they will take his car away. What would be funny is if they do try and take his car away, and hte judge concerned is the one that ruled that it was legal to confiscate cars where teh driver/owner is convicted of DUI..ehhehee

 

[chiskop]

Arrested judge out on bail

Confusion reigned at the Randburg magistrate's court on Monday when a Pretoria High Court judge arrested for drunken driving failed to appear at the court.​

 

[Leitmotif]

Well, at least it's not a blatant miscarriage of justice. Yet.

 

[Natas]

He is obviously out on bail...I wonder if he presided over his own bail hearing....

This is extremely bad for the SOuth African judicial system. One argument is that this judge never be taken seriously again. Another is that the judge is only human. Technically speaking when sitting on a bench the judge is an independant interpeter of teh law and considers facts. Viewes in such a lihgt it can be argued that the judge's past actions are not important but that only his skill in applying and interpreting the law is essential. However, judges must ofcourse be of the right character, be a sound individual of moral fibre. A criminally minded individual who is an epxert in law cannot be amde a judge. Also, how many other South Africans have been convicted of the same crime.

Is DUI an inherently serious/bad crime. I htink it is. One should not look at what actually happened. the wall the judge crashed into could just as easily have been a group of children or SARS employees!?!??!!?

If htis is his first count, I think that he should be fined as everyone else is, but that his fine should be SUBSTANTIAL....as for his continued occupation of the office of a judge, I am not sure?!!?!?!

 

[Leitmotif]

You're overlooking the judge's belligerent behaviour and resisting arrest. Those alone show contempt for the legal system.

 

[Natas]

You're overlooking the judge's belligerent behaviour and resisting arrest. Those alone show contempt for the legal system.

Agreed...and these factors go to sentencing. I have handled quite a few DUI charges OBO clients and I can tell you the best thing to do when you get cuaght is to be nice and co-operate with the cops and the doctors...esp the doctors...those dudes write down EVERYTHING you say.

Also, when in court, the magistrates take into account that you were intoxicated when you acted in that way. There is no way you will get jail time for your first DUI without agravating circumstances..not talking about bad behaviour. Criminal behaviour, culpable homicide - yes, fleeing the scene -possibly. Even taking into account that the guy is a judgem, he will not get jail time....and that is not because of favouritism, just the standard practice. the fact that he is a judge should in my opinion prompt severe punishment, but that will not and in my opinion should not, include jail time. Locking someone in an SA prison for DUI would be a sin!!!! I once saw a man in court, a truck driver who was appearing for his third DUI chrge while driving a truck. the first was a plain DUI second one he killed a child and the one I saw him for also involved the death of a child, deth by truck...needless to say he went away for a long time

perhaps also a cr@p load of comm service is in order!!!

 

[a-person]

It's not a single event of blatant miscarriage of justice... it's a full on timeline except the points on the line mysteriously disappear around 6 months or so after they happen. so it's actually a big circle.

 

[Bageloo]

The judge is also human. The judge is not the law. Why should he get a stiffer sentence? Aren't we are all equal in the eyes of the law?