High-End i7 3930K 32GB Ram GTX670 4GB

[Keeper]

im just trying to show the OP and Rickster that a workstation card is the way to go. This is an expensive buy and he is making a critical mistake!

Instead of blowing R5000 on a 4GB GTX 670, rather spend R1950 on a Quadro 600.
Then he's got and extra R3000 to blow, so he can get that 64GB of Corsair RAM he really wants, too.

You can't compare the CUDA cores of a Gaming card against a Workstation Card!

 

[Rickster]

@Keeper,

+1

The evidence you provided clearly proves that a Quadro (4000) card in this situation is better than any Geforce card, the OP should buy the Quadro 4000 instead of his GTX670.

 

[Keeper]

So I take it this is then his specs?

i7 3930K CPU
Corsair H80i Liquid Cooler
Asus P9X79 Mobo
Corsair Vengeance 32GB RAM Kit (4X8GB) - NOT low profile
[-]GTX 670 4GB (please also quote on 2GB version)[/-] NVIDIA Quadro 4000
Corsair 850W PSU
1 X DVD/R/RW Drive
Windows 8 Pro 64bit
No keyboard,mouse, monitor

Where the OP can save, if he needs more cash for that Quadro 4000:

Corsair TX750W Modular Cable Management PSU: R1300
Corsair HX850W Modular Cable Management PSU: R2092
Save R800. You don't really need 850W.

(2x8GB) G.Skill RipjawsX 16GB DDR3-1600: R1000
(4x8GB) Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR3-1600: R3063
Save R2000. Buy the other 16GB later.

I'm positive buying half the RAM now with the ability to upgrade to 32GB later on for another measly R1000, is much better, than having 32GB now and not having that R9000 card at all.

 

[Rickster]

i7 3930K CPU R6,397
[-]Corsair H80i Liquid Cooler[/-] Stock cooler
[-]Asus P9X79 Mobo[/-] R4,491 ASUS RAMPAGE IV R2,572
Corsair Vengeance 32GB RAM Kit (4X8GB) - NOT low profile R4,370
[-]GTX 670 4GB (please also quote on 2GB version)[/-] Nvidia Quadro 4000 R10,926
[-]Corsair 850W PSU[/-] Corsair GS700 R1,164
1 X DVD/R/RW Drive (ASUS DRW-24B5ST) R215
[-]Windows 8 Pro 64bit[/-] Windows 7 Pro 64Bit R2,051
No keayboard,mouse, monitor

Corsiar Carbide 500R R1,241

Total R 28,936.00 (ex delivery and VAT i think)

 

[Keeper]

i7 3930K CPU R5,894
Corsair H80i Liquid Cooler R1,217
Asus P9X79 Mobo R3,578
[-]Corsair Vengeance 32GB RAM Kit (4X8GB) - NOT low profile[/-] G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL10D-16GBXL DDR3 1600 (2X8GB) 16GB Kit R881
[-]GTX 670 4GB (please also quote on 2GB version)[/-] NVIDIA Quadro 4000 R9,045
[-]Corsair 850W PSU[/-] Corsair TX750W Modular PSU R1,300
1 X DVD/R/RW Drive R222
Windows 8 Pro 64bit R1,106
No keyboard,mouse, monitor

Total: R23,243

R5693 cheaper than your system, and he still gets to keep the same system he wants, only with a slightly smaller PSU, and 16GB RAM.
He can then buy more RAM as he goes along.... up to 64GB!

Corsair TX750W > Corsair GS700
Corsair H80i Liquid Cooler > Stock Cooling
Asus P9X79 > Asus Rampage IV

 

[Rickster]

Corsair TX750W > Corsair GS700
Corsair H80i Liquid Cooler > Stock Cooling
Asus P9X79 > Asus Rampage IV

Asus P9X79 - Ok why does he need 8 RAM slots?
Corsair H80i Liquid Cooler - Why does he need aftermarket/water cooling?

 

[Keeper]

Asus P9X79 - Ok why does he need 8 RAM slots?
Corsair H80i Liquid Cooler - Why does he need aftermarket/water cooling?

liquid cooler is better than stock in many ways, including no fan noise.

8 RAM Slots means he can upgrade to 64GB RAM (8 x 8GB) instead of a maximum of 4 x 8GB... ZBrush will be uber happy with that RAM, and so will his 3dsmax.
The OP also said himself he wants to go up to 64GB, too.

He can have that mobo and cooler and save himself R5693 with my list...
Why do you recommend he should he pay so much more to only have 4 RAM Slots with a stock cooler, and a non-modular 700W PSU?


I'm giving the OP the exact same system he wanted, just with 100W less PSU (but still modular) and not all the ram at once, saving R3000 so he can get a Quadro 4000 without actually spending more money.


Basically, i'm trading in 16GB of RAM and 100 watts of power to upgrade his GTX to a Quadro 4000 at no additional cost. I think that's smart.
He can upgrade RAM very easily for little money. Upgrading a mobo or GPU is another story.

 

[Rickster]

/snip

Ok,I think your reasoning is better than mine, he should get your specs.

 

[abs1]

liquid cooler is better than stock in many ways, including no fan noise.

8 RAM Slots means he can upgrade to 64GB RAM (8 x 8GB) instead of a maximum of 4 x 8GB... ZBrush will be uber happy with that RAM, and so will his 3dsmax.
The OP also said himself he wants to go up to 64GB, too.

He can have that mobo and cooler and save himself R5693 with my list...
Why do you recommend he should he pay so much more to only have 4 RAM Slots with a stock cooler, and a non-modular 700W PSU?


I'm giving the OP the exact same system he wanted, just with 100W less PSU (but still modular) and not all the ram at once, saving R3000 so he can get a Quadro 4000 without actually spending more money.


Basically, i'm trading in 16GB of RAM and 100 watts of power to upgrade his GTX to a Quadro 4000 at no additional cost. I think that's smart.
He can upgrade RAM very easily for little money. Upgrading a mobo or GPU is another story.

Nice job keeper, OP I would really take this advice, as Keeper pointed out there is reason for consumer gfx and workstation gfx.

 

[F1ve_Claw]

He will have to get some sort of cooler. LGA2011's done come with stock fans :\

 

[crysis]

Hi all

I need a supplier in the Randburg/Sandton/surrounding areas familiar with HIGH-END specs that could also make suggestions and recommendations. Although these specs are pretty much it, this is a high end business pc for 3D graphics:

i7 3930K CPU
Corsair H80i Liquid Cooler
Asus P9X79 Mobo
Corsair Vengeance 32GB RAM Kit (4X8GB) - NOT low profile
GTX 670 4GB (please also quote on 2GB version)
Corsair 850W PSU
1 X DVD/R/RW Drive
Windows 8 Pro 64bit
No keayboard,mouse, monitor

I havent made my mind up yet on the HDD, but leaning towards WD Raptor 10 000RPM. I had issues with 2X Kingston SSD 128GB in Raid0. Suggestions? It will just be for OS and programs so 500GB or 1TB should be fine. I'll be saving my work on my fileserver.
Also the case? Because of the heatsinks on the RAM, the CPU cooling is a bit of an issue. The H100 needs a more expensive case to fit the 2 X 120mm fans side by side on the RAD, but the H80i has the 2 fans back to back and could possibly give issues to installation between top of case and GPU. Suggestions?
Maybe one of these:
Corsair Carbide 500R Black?
CoolerMaster Big Tower Trooper?
I don't need or want a case that looks like a spaceship with millions of LED's or clear side cover. Something square and sleek is ideal.

For your usage and budget, I wouldn't worry too much about a quadro. I see loads of people trying to flog them in this thread, but I doubt they have any industry experience in 3D.

Unless you set up some seriously big scenes, with high quality textures in viewports, heavy rigging and animation all in the same scene, then I would suggest getting one of the higher end quadro cards (dont waste your time with the midrange ones). But If you want to get fast render previews with stuff like Vray RT, that 4gb GTX will be more than fast enough. The same priced quadro won't be as fast.


32gb of ram is essential if you want some headroom, don't settle for 16gb, but there is NO advantage to getting the most expensive Vengeance ram, unless you plan on overclocking, which also won't make much difference to 3D. Quantity over quality.

And obviously the cream of the crop would be to get some dual xeons going, but thats $$$$

All in all you got a good system there, don't worry about what these other okes are saying.

 

[Keeper]

For your usage and budget, I wouldn't worry too much about a quadro. I see loads of people trying to flog them in this thread, but I doubt they have any industry experience in 3D.

I take it you have worked with Zbrush Models in 3dsmax? GoZ?
Have you generated displacement maps using hires models in 3dsmax?
Have you done Sim stuff before? hair/cloth/fracturing?

This stuff can slow your viewport down pretty easily if you want the best looking render.


Are you saying the GTX 670 will beat the Quadro 4000 if the OP decides to build a large scene?

 

[crysis]

I take it you have worked with Zbrush Models in 3dsmax? GoZ?
Have you generated displacement maps using hires models in 3dsmax?
Have you done Sim stuff before? hair/cloth/fracturing?

This stuff can slow your viewport down pretty easily if you want the best looking render.


Are you saying the GTX 670 will beat the Quadro 4000 if the OP decides to build a large scene?

Im talking about return on investment. The GTX 670 is perfect for his needs. The quadro 4000 only has 2gb of ram, so for Vray RT It probably would be slower. It depends what you want to do Keeper.


Most of those things you mentioned are CPU intensive, not GPU.

So far the only stuff I've done thats managed to cripple my GPU is Fume FX. But that requires brute force calculations, so the extra cuda cores for the GTX will probably beat the quadro 4000 as well. Quadro's are only useful imo if you either get the top of the range model, or exclusively use autocad. And since the OP doesn't seem interested in either, I cant recommend one to him. Also with something that's constantly going out of date, spending more money on your GPU isn't worth it.

Im sure in some instances a 4000 is better than a 670, but for this purpose it isn't. A separate render node would be much better money spent in this industry.