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Pineapple Smurf

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You've gone blind... :oops:

They must be smiling all the way to the bank.

Going to collect a lot of grain and hops later, then I am good for the rest of the year.
Theres still 3 different Coopers flavours available
And their prices are good, same as pre-lockdown
Great to see brew suppliers are not doubling their prices
 

Kola_CT

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Theres still 3 different Coopers flavours available
And their prices are good, same as pre-lockdown
Great to see brew suppliers are not doubling their prices
Am just kidding, saw there are still 3 styles available but not going to try those.

Yes, their prices are still good, but they must have good turnover at the moment.
 

SeRpEnT

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@SeRpEnT See my previous post

Wtf is a "brew can" and why does the site give zilch info on what this product includes? As a newbie, what type of equipment comes with it, if any? I assume this at least includes the ingredients? How much does it make etc etc. No details on any of these products, or is it elsewhere on their site?
 

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Wtf is a "brew can" and why does the site give zilch info on what this product includes? As a newbie, what type of equipment comes with it, if any? I assume this at least includes the ingredients? How much does it make etc etc. No details on any of these products, or is it elsewhere on their site?
Have a look at the Coopers website for more instructions - https://www.diybeer.com/au/

For a Coopers can you need...
- The brew can, which has a sachet of yeast with it.
- 1kg of Brew Enhancer or sugar.
- A fermentation vessel of around 25 litres.
- an Airlock (easy to make if you cannot buy one).
- Sanitiser (either from Beerlab or Milton also works fine).
- Makes 20 - 23 litres.

You can also buy a kit from Beerlab or others which will include all the basics you need for your first batch, including instructions, a brew kit can and the Enhancer.

Everything must be clean and sanitised, else you can get infection which stuffs up the beer.

This is to start the fermentation, once fermented you need more stuff to bottle.

@Papa Smurf is the resident Coopers expert...
 

Ares1000101

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I've been thinking about dabbling in this home brewing thing... the more I read the bigger my potential costs are climbing. I want to cover all the necesary hurdles. I know one doesn't need to spend a lot to brew beer, but I have a concern when it comes to temperature of the fermentation.

My house get very warm during the day, even the garage as it has a low roof. I don't think there is 1 spot where the temperature remains steady, let alone a the required temperature.

I can't even say how hot my house gets, can't measure it. a lot warmer than 20 degrees I'm sure.

If I buy a beer kit, I'm also wanting to get a 2nd hand chest freezer and an STC1000 to control the temp. Is this overkill?
 

Kola_CT

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I've been thinking about dabbling in this home brewing thing... the more I read the bigger my potential costs are climbing. I want to cover all the necesary hurdles. I know one doesn't need to spend a lot to brew beer, but I have a concern when it comes to temperature of the fermentation.

My house get very warm during the day, even the garage as it has a low roof. I don't think there is 1 spot where the temperature remains steady, let alone a the required temperature.

I can't even say how hot my house gets, can't measure it. a lot warmer than 20 degrees I'm sure.

If I buy a beer kit, I'm also wanting to get a 2nd hand chest freezer and an STC1000 to control the temp. Is this overkill?
I use a setup like this and it works very well to ferment and then to cold crash before bottling, and doubles up for my distilling ferments as well - and not too expensive to do.
 

Snyper564

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I've been thinking about dabbling in this home brewing thing... the more I read the bigger my potential costs are climbing. I want to cover all the necesary hurdles. I know one doesn't need to spend a lot to brew beer, but I have a concern when it comes to temperature of the fermentation.

My house get very warm during the day, even the garage as it has a low roof. I don't think there is 1 spot where the temperature remains steady, let alone a the required temperature.

I can't even say how hot my house gets, can't measure it. a lot warmer than 20 degrees I'm sure.

If I buy a beer kit, I'm also wanting to get a 2nd hand chest freezer and an STC1000 to control the temp. Is this overkill?
Just go kveik yeat can do 20 -40 deg
 

SykomantiS

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I've been thinking about dabbling in this home brewing thing... the more I read the bigger my potential costs are climbing. I want to cover all the necesary hurdles. I know one doesn't need to spend a lot to brew beer, but I have a concern when it comes to temperature of the fermentation.

My house get very warm during the day, even the garage as it has a low roof. I don't think there is 1 spot where the temperature remains steady, let alone a the required temperature.

I can't even say how hot my house gets, can't measure it. a lot warmer than 20 degrees I'm sure.

If I buy a beer kit, I'm also wanting to get a 2nd hand chest freezer and an STC1000 to control the temp. Is this overkill?
I agree with @Snyper564 - kveik it 'til you make it. :p

Although you can't do everything with kveik (and some may even disagree with that) the various strains are very versatile and especially forgiving for our ambient temperatures, and it's fast.

Edit: also, no. a fermentation chamber isn't overkill- if you know you will continue with the hobby. Also nothing stopping you from selling if you move on- though you might take a small knock.
 

SykomantiS

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aah did not know this.
any downside to Kveik? I mean, why is it not the go to yeast?
Personal opinion is it can make you lazy, sort of.
Kveik also wasn't always well known, and we still don't have access to all the strains that are available. It's a relatively new thing (I think).

I'm actually looking for something like Skare to try out.
This is in my experience, maybe others can chip in here as well.
 

Steamy Tom

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I've been thinking about dabbling in this home brewing thing... the more I read the bigger my potential costs are climbing. I want to cover all the necesary hurdles. I know one doesn't need to spend a lot to brew beer, but I have a concern when it comes to temperature of the fermentation.

My house get very warm during the day, even the garage as it has a low roof. I don't think there is 1 spot where the temperature remains steady, let alone a the required temperature.

I can't even say how hot my house gets, can't measure it. a lot warmer than 20 degrees I'm sure.

If I buy a beer kit, I'm also wanting to get a 2nd hand chest freezer and an STC1000 to control the temp. Is this overkill?

so i have been brewing cider not beer but the yeast ranges are very similar in a lot of situations from what i can tell, i have simply kept my fermenter in a dark cupboard and i have never had an issue with temperature control to be honest
 

binloud

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so i have been brewing cider not beer but the yeast ranges are very similar in a lot of situations from what i can tell, i have simply kept my fermenter in a dark cupboard and i have never had an issue with temperature control to be honest
Yeah variation in temp is apparently not as big of a factor as everyone makes it out to be, more important is getting the correct yeast for the temp and style. Like Kviek if your house is super hot in summer and you struggle to cool your wort. - https://brulosophy.com/2017/05/08/f...-pt-7-stable-vs-variable-exbeeriment-results/
 

Snyper564

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Personal opinion is it can make you lazy, sort of.
Kveik also wasn't always well known, and we still don't have access to all the strains that are available. It's a relatively new thing (I think).

I'm actually looking for something like Skare to try out.
This is in my experience, maybe others can chip in here as well.
it can make you really lazy, but for new comers its perfect, I have proper temp controlled fridges now so no issue. But it helped a lot and you get many strains to do just about any beer except weiss
 

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Wtf is a "brew can" and why does the site give zilch info on what this product includes? As a newbie, what type of equipment comes with it, if any? I assume this at least includes the ingredients? How much does it make etc etc. No details on any of these products, or is it elsewhere on their site?
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Dimpie (COMPUTEK)

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SykomantiS

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Yeah variation in temp is apparently not as big of a factor as everyone makes it out to be, more important is getting the correct yeast for the temp and style. Like Kviek if your house is super hot in summer and you struggle to cool your wort. - https://brulosophy.com/2017/05/08/f...-pt-7-stable-vs-variable-exbeeriment-results/
I think it's more complicated than that. It's a pretty interesting read though. I think lots of variables impact the final fermentation results (the author also mentioned this). I'm wondering if pitching temperature might have more of an impact than fermentation temperature- potentially the yeast is stressed out more in the initial lag phase, especially if you don't make use of a starter / high cell count when pitching. Then there's also the rest- yeast type, health, etc.

Either way, I don't know nearly enough as a layman to do anything more than make [uneducated] guesses.
 

binloud

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Okay true, it's totally not as simple as I am making it out to be ...but for a newbie. Not sure a freezer and everything is required until you sure you want to keep doing it.
 
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