How a pro-vaccine doctor reopened debate about link to autism

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https://thehill.com/opinion/healthc...e-doctor-reopened-debate-about-link-to-autism

A world-renowned pro-vaccine medical expert is the newest voice adding to the body of evidence suggesting that vaccines can cause autism in certain susceptible children.
Pediatric neurologist Dr. Andrew Zimmerman originally served as the expert medical witness for the government, which defends vaccines in federal vaccine court. He had testified that vaccines do not cause autism in specific patients.
Dr. Zimmerman now has signed a bombshell sworn affidavit. He says that, during a group of 5,000 vaccine-autism cases being heard in court on June 15, 2007, he took aside the Department of Justice (DOJ) lawyers he worked for defending vaccines and told them he’d discovered “exceptions in which vaccinations could cause autism.”
“I explained that in a subset of children, vaccine-induced fever and immune stimulation did cause regressive brain disease with features of autism spectrum disorder,” Dr. Zimmerman now states. He said his opinion was based on “scientific advances” as well as his own experience with patients.
For the government and vaccine industry’s own pro-vaccine expert to have this scientific opinion stood to change everything about the vaccine-autism debate — if people were to find out.
But they didn’t.
Dr. Zimmerman goes on to say that once the DOJ lawyers learned of his position, they quickly fired him as an expert witness and kept his opinion secret from other parents and the rest of the public.
What’s worse, he says the DOJ went on to misrepresent his opinion in federal vaccine court to continue to debunk vaccine-autism claims.
Records show that on June 18, 2007, a DOJ attorney to whom Dr. Zimmerman spoke told the vaccine court: “We know [Dr. Zimmerman’s] views on the issue. ... There is no scientific basis for a connection” between vaccines and autism.
Dr. Zimmerman now calls that “highly misleading” and says he’d told them the opposite.
Vaccine safety advocate Robert F. Kennedy Jr., of Children’s Health Defense, describes the DOJ attorneys’ alleged cover-up and misrepresentations as “one of the most consequential frauds, arguably in human history.” He has filed a fraud complaint with the DOJ inspector general against the DOJ attorneys involved. (The inspector general’s office said it cannot comment on investigations or potential investigations.)
As a backdrop, it helps to understand how vaccine injury claims are handled in the United States.
Congress created the special vaccine court in 1988, in consultation with the pharmaceutical industry. In this special court, hearings are private and vaccine makers don’t defend their products — the federal government does it for them, using DOJ lawyers. Money for victims comes from us, not from the pharmaceutical industry, through patient fees added to every vaccine given.
Rolf Hazlehurst is the parent of one autistic child whom Dr. Zimmerman states got autism from vaccination. A criminal prosecutor, Hazlehurst told congressional staffers at a briefing in 2013 that “if I did to a criminal in a court of law what the United States Department of Justice did to vaccine-injured children, I would be disbarred and I would be facing criminal charges. I think that scared the hell out of them.” An upcoming House Oversight hearing on the topic was abruptly cancelled.
Dr. Zimmerman’s opinion mirrors that of another pro-vaccine medical expert — the late Dr. Bernadine Healy, former director of the National Institutes of Health. And it lines up with what the head of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) Immunization Safety, Dr. Frank DeStefano, told me in 2014. When asked about vaccines triggering autism in certain susceptible children, DeStefano acknowledged it as possible.
“I guess that, that is a possibility,” said DeStefano. “It’s hard to predict who those children might be, but certainly, individual cases can be studied to look at those possibilities.”
 
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/03/160307092314.htm

Cells normally associated with protecting the brain from infection and injury also serve an important role in rewiring the connections between nerve cells, new research shows. While this discovery sheds new light on the mechanics of neuroplasticity, it could also help explain diseases like autism spectrum disorders, schizophrenia, and dementia, which may arise when this process breaks down and connections between brain cells are not formed or removed correctly.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25845529

This article outlines the over-pruning hypothesis of autism. The hypothesis originates in a neurocomputational model of the regressive sub-type (Thomas, Knowland & Karmiloff-Smith, 2011a, 2011b). Here we develop a more general version of the over-pruning hypothesis to address heterogeneity in the timing of manifestation of ASD, including new computer simulations which reconcile the different observed developmental trajectories (early onset, late onset, regression) via a single underlying atypical mechanism; and which show how unaffected siblings of individuals with ASD may differ from controls either by inheriting a milder version of the pathological mechanism or by co-inheriting the risk factors without the pathological mechanism. The proposed atypical mechanism involves overly aggressive synaptic pruning in infancy and early childhood, an exaggeration of a normal phase of brain development. We show how the hypothesis generates novel predictions that differ from existing theories of ASD including that (1) the first few months of development in ASD will be indistinguishable from typical, and (2) the earliest atypicalities in ASD will be sensory and motor rather than social. Both predictions gain cautious support from emerging longitudinal studies of infants at-risk of ASD.
There's also positive association between cesarean births and autism as compared to natural births. It's actually quite easy to see how an infection could provoke the immune system into malfunctioning with respect to how it rewires the brain.
 

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Lol couldn't this wait for Friday?

I see the anti-science crowd that believes it is blasphemy to debate and question stuff is out in full force.
 

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My kids were not vaccinated and are now healthy young adults.
And my daughter will not be vaccinating her soon to be born son either.
Thank goodness in SA we can exercise our constitutional right to say NO to BS vaccines.
 
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flippakitten

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My kids were not vaccinated and are now healthy young adults.
And my daughter will not be vaccinating her soon to be born son either.
Thank goodness in SA we can exercise our constitutional right to say NO to vaccines.
Your kids relied on herd immunity and as more people stop vaccinating the outbreaks of preventable diseases will increase, as we see happening all over the world in areas where there are large gatherings of anti vaxxers.
 

saor

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What debate? You either vaccinate your kids or you are retarded.
You realise it's possible to be pro vaccinations whilst also admitting it might have it's problems? I'm not saying it does, but everyone is so damn binary about this vaccine debate that the as soon as anyone brings up anything about vaccines & potential harms they get accused of being acti-vaxxers.
 

The Free Radical

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Your kids relied on herd immunity and as more people stop vaccinating the outbreaks of preventable diseases will increase, as we see happening all over the world in areas where there are large gatherings of anti vaxxers.
Most of the diseases for which vaccines were supposedly created were already in a steep decline or had almost completely vanished when vaccines were first came to market. The truth is proper sanitation and new hygiene practices resulted in the decline of communicable diseases at the time vaccines were rolled out. The pharmaceutical industry piggy-backed on this and natural viral burn-out trend have been riding this fake science and medi-cult scam ever since.



https://www.learntherisk.org/diseases/
 
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flippakitten

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Most of the diseases for which vaccines were supposedly created were already in a steep decline or had almost completely vanished where vaccines were first administered. The truth is proper sanitation and new hygiene practices resulted in the decline of communicable diseases at the time vaccines were rolled out. The pharmaceutical industry piggy-backed on this and have been riding this fake science and medi-cult scam ever since.
Please show me the data surrounding this published in a peer reviewed scientific journal.

Then explain https://www.livescience.com/63951-anti-vaxxer-measles-outbreak-europe.html
Did everyone in Europe all of a sudden start being unhygienic?
 

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My kids were not vaccinated and are now healthy young adults.
And my daughter will not be vaccinating her soon to be born son either.
Thank goodness in SA we can exercise our constitutional right to say NO to BS vaccines.
And you will quite happy exercise your right to taking other people's money when you get sick from a preventable illness.
 

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Most of the diseases for which vaccines were supposedly created were already in a steep decline or had almost completely vanished where vaccines were first administered. The truth is proper sanitation and new hygiene practices resulted in the decline of communicable diseases at the time vaccines were rolled out. The pharmaceutical industry piggy-backed on this and have been riding this fake science and medi-cult scam ever since.



https://www.learntherisk.org/diseases/
and I guess the vaccines given to livestock is unnecessary since cows learned how to clean their hooves correctly.

Vaccines are not only used in humans.
 

The Free Radical

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My kids would have had a higher percentage of risk from suffering from vaccine injuries, many of which are life-long and even fatal, than contracting the treatable bogyman diseases they allege to prevent.
The risk / benefit ratio was clear. Choosing to not vaccinate them was the right thing to do as a responsible parent.
 
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