How a pro-vaccine doctor reopened debate about link to autism

konfab

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Only if you can prove imminent harm, which is not possible with a healthy child being presented.
He who avers must prove.
An example:

Here is a convicted pedophile with a criminal record coming to teach your children sex education, according to what you are saying, you cannot possibly deny him a job until he actually commits a crime.

As I said before, you lot want everyone else to risk their health because of your choices.
 

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Thank goodness in SA we can exercise our constitutional right to say NO to BS vaccines.
The awesome thing is schools are starting to ban kids who are not vaccinated. E.g. schools in Stellenbosch. There was a massive outbreak in Stellies and now retarded anti-vaxxer's will not be tolerated.

You could put all the non-vaccinated kids in their own school, but they wouldn't survive long enough to warrant keeping it open.
 

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Well, the anti-vax lobby is growing all over the globe as people wake up to the scam it is.
You have your rights to be vaccinated and have your babies and kids vaccinated, and we have our rights not to be vaccinated, or our babies and kids vaccinated. That's democracy.
End of story.
Yeah, it's growing and more kids are dying because of it. Suggest you stop reading mommy blogs and look further than your feelings:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5007135/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46267038
https://www.health24.com/Medical/Childhood-diseases/Vaccinations/what-happened-when-1-unvaccinated-nyc-kid-got-measles-20180913

You clearly have no clue how this works. Your kid get's measels, my kid can still get it.
Your kid also puts pregnant women at risk.

Lastly, suggest you lookup who Andrew Wakefield is and how he faked results and what happened to him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield
 

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Polio is not treatable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis

German Measles is not treatable
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubella

Mumps is not treatable
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumps

Measles is not treatable
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles#Prevention

There are no antiviral medications for these viruses. You can treat the symptoms to an point, but you can't just take a pill and the viruses die.
Watch how the moron will conveniently ignore your post.
It's bogeyman diseases, after all.
 

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I would never send my kid to a school who accepts anti-vaxxers, maybe they need their own school where they can all be sick together, just build it far away from the general public.
 

konfab

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Watch how the moron will conveniently ignore your post.
It's bogeyman diseases, after all.
The real fun part will be when anti-vaxxers intersect with immigration from third world shïtholes that have large populations of unvaccinated people.
 

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There is no case law - when last I checked - which rules that requiring a vaccination schedule is unconstitutional. I would argue that it is constitutional, given the education sectors duty to take extra precaution and care of minors. Allowing un-vaccinated children into the school endangers those who are immuno-compromised.
Public schools can't stop the AVers, but private schools can to an extent. Though the public school makes the parents sign a lot of documentation, basically if a parents kid gets sick they can be sued by said parent.
 

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If your child in vaccinated, you have no cause for concern if mine isn't.
This just proves you don't have much faith in their efficacy either then.
No, its you that is missing the point which has been stated to you already. *your* kids are being protected by herd immunity. The more kids that are not vaccinated the smaller the herd gets and the more likely an outbreak is.
 

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The real fun part will be when anti-vaxxers intersect with immigration from third world shïtholes that have large populations of unvaccinated people.
People in third world countries walk very far to get their kids vaccinated because they know it works from experience.
 

Lupus

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Yeah, it's growing and more kids are dying because of it. Suggest you stop reading mommy blogs and look further than your feelings:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5007135/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46267038
https://www.health24.com/Medical/Childhood-diseases/Vaccinations/what-happened-when-1-unvaccinated-nyc-kid-got-measles-20180913

You clearly have no clue how this works. Your kid get's measels, my kid can still get it.
Your kid also puts pregnant women at risk.

Lastly, suggest you lookup who Andrew Wakefield is and how he faked results and what happened to him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield
Scary thing is, that fraudster is still getting away with it and the AVers still laud him.
 

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Public schools can't stop the AVers, but private schools can to an extent. Though the public school makes the parents sign a lot of documentation, basically if a parents kid gets sick they can be sued by said parent.
Should have clarified: Private schools.

It is crazy that entry to public schools isn't premised on the requirement of vaccination.
 

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I am pro-vaccinations - if you have seen a dog with any one of the preventable diseases you are pro-vaccination. It works, and I will straight up call anyone who doesn't vaccinate their puppies, kittens or kids stupid to their face.

HOWEVER

There are two problems with vaccinations that are not being addressed in all the really stupid autism or not debate:

1. Vaccine side-effects are real and serious (deaths occur).

2. There is growing evidence that we vaccinate excessively with little discernible benefit. i.e the first rounds of vaccination confer immunity that is not improved by further vaccination. In fact, once the immune system is activated subsequent vaccinations are destroyed by the immune system before they have effect.

I would be greatly in support of efforts to make vaccines safer and to re-examine vaccination schedules to eliminate any non-essential vaccinations that are of no benefit to the recipient.
 

thestaggy

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Immunisation rates for children as low as 70pc in some Australian suburbs: report

"Some of the postcodes with the highest rates of immunisation were Woonona in New South Wales with rates at 99.5 per cent, and Broome in Western Australia with 99.2 per cent," she said.

"At the other end of the spectrum, some of the postcodes with the lowest rates was in the Sydney central business district at 70.5 per cent, and in Burwood NSW at 72.8 per cent.

Rates in inner Sydney were even lower than Byron Bay (73.2 per cent) — renowned for being an area resistant to vaccination.
Man with measles visited bars, gym while infectious

A fifth case of measles has been reported in NSW, with the infected man having visited bars, a shopping centre and a gym in inner Sydney.

The unvaccinated man, aged in his 20s, developed measles this week nine days after his first exposure to the disease, carried by a child visiting from Thailand.
Measles warning for passengers on Qantas flight from Manila to Sydney

Passengers on a Qantas flight that landed in Sydney on Friday morning have been warned that a fellow passenger was infectious with measles.

The man in his 20s travelled on Flight QF20 from Manila, which landed at Sydney Airport at 6.30am on January 11, NSW Health said.

He developed measles while he was in the Philippines and was diagnosed with the highly infectious disease after returning home to Sydney.

It is the sixth case of measles reported in Sydney in the past three weeks - all due to people returning, or visiting, from countries where measles is prevalent.
Melbourne is experiencing its own Measles crisis and there was a warning there over Christmas, and it includes a hospital that may have been compromised.

Melbourne hospital exposed to measles infection

Australia is a highly developed country with high immunisation rates, but the anti-vaxxers travel abroad and bring their sh*t back with them.
 
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