How dashcams help you protect yourself against corrupt police officers

3WA

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SA Police officers are required to carry and show their appointment cards when requested.

The appointment card should include an eight-digit force number, the officer’s initials and surname printed in block letters below their force number, their ID number, rank, and the data and place of issue.

The Police Commissioner’s signature should also be included at the bottom right.

If the officer refuses to present their appointment card, you can ask to speak to or be approached by their supervisor or commander.

How to get smacked.
 

chrisc

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Yes, they do

When stopped at a fake roadblock and asked for a "cooldrink" I asked the cop if he smiled when he approached the car as the dashcam was working

He reached in and ripped it off the windscreen

I reported it to Diep River SAPS with his rank and badge name. Wrote out an affidavit with my witnesses

Never heard another word

Is Hanno deluded that he thinks it will work? If the cop is crook, there is absolutely no chance
 
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RedViking

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Yes, they do

When stopped at a fake roadblock and asked for a "cooldrink" I asked the cop if he smiled when he approached the car as the dashcam was working

He reached in and ripped it off the windscreen

I reported it to Diep River SAPS with his rank and badge name. Wrote out an affidavit with my witness

Never heard another word

Is Hanno deluded that he thinks it will work? If the cop is crook, there is absolutely no chance
Good you still alive.
 

deweyzeph

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Yes, they do

When stopped at a fake roadblock and asked for a "cooldrink" I asked the cop if he smiled when he approached the car as the dashcam was working

He reached in and ripped it off the windscreen

I reported it to Diep River SAPS with his rank and badge name. Wrote out an affidavit with my witness

Never heard another word

Is Hanno deluded that he thinks it will work? If the cop is crook, there is absolutely no chance

I've been stopped plenty of times with my dashcam operating, never once has any cop ever even acknowledged it or even clocked it, as far as I could tell. It also helps if you don't draw attention to it as the cop approaches your car.
 

3WA

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I've been stopped plenty of times with my dashcam operating, never once has any cop ever even acknowledged it or even clocked it, as far as I could tell. It also helps if you don't draw attention to it as the cop approaches your car.

It's a probabilities game.

1. Real cop with no nefarious intentions: no problem, you don’t have to mention the dashcam.

2. Real cop looking for a bribe: you might save yourself some money by mentioning the dashcam. Or not.

3. Fake cop looking to rob you: better not to mention the dashcam; its only use will be as evidence.

Of course, you can’t always distinguish 2. and 3. until it’s too late.
 

deweyzeph

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It's a probabilities game.

1. Real cop with no nefarious intentions: no problem, you don’t have to mention the dashcam.

2. Real cop looking for a bribe: you might save yourself some money by mentioning the dashcam. Or not.

3. Fake cop looking to rob you: better not to mention the dashcam; its only use will be as evidence.

Of course, you can’t always distinguish 2. and 3. until it’s too late.

I've got a super small one (Garmin 55), and it's tucked up nice and tight next to my rear-view mirror on the passenger side, so you can't see it if you're standing next to the driver's door talking to the driver. The more discrete you can make it the better.
 

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what I cant ever understand is why

insurance companies don't jump on the Dashcam bandwagon
and start saying, pay less premiums if you have a dashcam working in your car.

so many benefits, besides corrupt cops and accidents,
 

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I work with a lot of SAPS guys. There are a handful trying to hold on to the ethos of being a policeman. But really maybe 3 or 4 per station/centre. The police are a joke in SA. Its WIld west when you get stopped, 50/50
 

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what I cant ever understand is why

insurance companies don't jump on the Dashcam bandwagon
and start saying, pay less premiums if you have a dashcam working in your car.

so many benefits, besides corrupt cops and accidents,

Then you face the same problem as when you tell your insurance company that you have an alarm in your house, and you forget to put it on and get robbed. It's just another thing they can use to repudiate your claim.
 

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Any recommendations on a good dashcam. It's more for insurance purposes than cops asking for cooldrinks.

* Front
* Rear
* Won't melt in SA weather - seems to be a big problem last time that I see in threads on this forum.
* Access via an app (wifi/Bluetooth)
 

eg2505

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Then you face the same problem as when you tell your insurance company that you have an alarm in your house, and you forget to put it on and get robbed. It's just another thing they can use to repudiate your claim.
again that depends, I see it as covering ones a$$ so well, that they have no choice but to pay you, I mean do they really want to argue with a camera that caught the whole thing?
as people tend to believe what they see, and hard to fake video evidence should you encounter a crooked cop or a accident.

as to your point, yes, but then again what happens if the insurance company itself (or a fitment centre) fits your dashcam, and wires it into the ignition, so its on when the engine is running.
 

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what I cant ever understand is why

insurance companies don't jump on the Dashcam bandwagon
and start saying, pay less premiums if you have a dashcam working in your car.

so many benefits, besides corrupt cops and accidents,

Not just that.. it should be made standard for new models to have one built into the car with the standard disclaimer that your speed & other violations cannot be prosecuted with your own evidence. Upload happens at petrol stations, WiFi on major routes, malls etc. cell connection used to inform of vehicle it sees.. number plates changed to contain QR. ie real-time echo back of “hot” vehicles (stolen, hijacked,out of place/Ie reg driver not in vehicle)

6months later most people will be sitting at home catching an Uber as they will not have demerit points for the year.. a year or two later RAF can be nearly scrapped.

Year 5 insurance companies for vehicles start losing money because everyone is buying cheapest plan as there is limited accidents which are just that accidents not reckless okes and drink drivers. Reality is cops can’t be everywhere..tech & cameras can.
 

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Any recommendations on a good dashcam. It's more for insurance purposes than cops asking for cooldrinks.

* Front
* Rear
* Won't melt in SA weather - seems to be a big problem last time that I see in threads on this forum.
* Access via an app (wifi/Bluetooth)
I've been through a few Chinese cheap brands and most failed after a while from bad batteries and also bad images. I've finally settled on a Garmin Dash Cam 55 which I've used the last few years with zero issues. It has WiFi, voice control to keep video clip, does rolling video recording all the time, auto sets GPS time to always be correct time, speed and location. I also added a UV polarising filter over the camera to cut reflections (I had to fit this myself but it's lens protrudes slightly so easily to mount a filter. This model does not have the rear camera, but you could also mount a second one facing the rear. But same advice goes for the SD card, don't skimp on the quality or rating of the card, or you'll find after a few months to a year the card has picked up write errors. This camera comes with sticky adhesive to mount, and a magnetic mount which is great for easily detaching it.

EDIT: Forgot to mention it has lane departure warnings, as well as over speed limit, and also warnings if you follow the car in front too closely.
 

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Any recommendations on a good dashcam. It's more for insurance purposes than cops asking for cooldrinks.

* Front
* Rear
* Won't melt in SA weather - seems to be a big problem last time that I see in threads on this forum.
* Access via an app (wifi/Bluetooth)
I have this one: https://70mai.store/products/70mai-dash-cam-4k-a800s
Front and rear camera setup, hardwired into the fuse box. Been working perfectly for almost a year already.
 

chrisc

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I've got a super small one (Garmin 55), and it's tucked up nice and tight next to my rear-view mirror on the passenger side, so you can't see it if you're standing next to the driver's door talking to the driver. The more discrete you can make it the better.
The cop tapped on the windscreen behind which is the camera and asked what it was. It was then I told him it was a camera and asked if he smiled, as it was on

My passenger took his photo with his phohe. The cop told him he could be locked up for that. I think if there had not been 3 guys in the car he would have become more aggro., As it was he was pulling on the handle trying to open the door. I had my arm on the door release switch
 

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The cop tapped on the windscreen behind which is the camera and asked what it was. It was then I told him it was a camera and asked if he smiled, as it was on

My passenger took his photo with his phohe. The cop told him he could be locked up for that. I think if there had not been 3 guys in the car he would have become more aggro., As it was he was pulling on the handle trying to open the door. I had my arm on the door release switch
Sometimes passengers can escalate a situation
 
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