How the chartered flight for Afrikaner refugees to the United States was approved

[Mephisto_Helix]

Helen Lotter, 2009 .... googling is hard yo

 

[NoStepOnSnek88]

Please show me where somebody wrote "Kill the Boer" in blood....

We all know the outcome of this question..... But why not...

"Information by police members to the news media shortly after the murder also was that the words ‘Kill the Boer’ had been daubed in the women’s blood on the farmhouse walls"

Boer womens cruel-torture murders described in court

Pieces of fat the size of a mans hand were sliced off the body of tortured farm woman Helen Lotter� and she was stabbed in her sexual parts with a broken beer-bottle� WELKOM. �Miss Hel…

southafricanews.wordpress.com

 

[Calkem]

"Information by police members to the news media shortly after the murder also was that the words ‘Kill the Boer’ had been daubed in the women’s blood on the farmhouse walls"

Boer womens cruel-torture murders described in court

Pieces of fat the size of a mans hand were sliced off the body of tortured farm woman Helen Lotter� and she was stabbed in her sexual parts with a broken beer-bottle� WELKOM. �Miss Hel…

southafricanews.wordpress.com

Do you have any verifiable source besides a link to an unknown wordpress website?

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

This is called a Descanso (Roadside Memorial). They are not burial sites. At any given time, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of these on the sides of roads throughout the US. Journalists know exactly what these are. You can find them all over the world.

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Here is another example in Australia.

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The fact that people are arguing over whether these are grave sites tells me that either a large portion of the human population's genetic IQ pool is indeed circling the drain, or those who think these are grave sites have never actually left the safety of their homes.

I literally cannot contemplate or even remotely ****ing fathom how, in the year 2025, we are even debating whether or not these are burial sites.

Please, please, please!

Just remember there is a reason why notices have to be put of heaters. Some idiot is bound to end up in hospital, suing the heater manufacturer if it's not there. Even so, the more pedantic idiots still ignore the "Beware, hot!" notice, coming along saying something like "but this might not be hot hot currently" and then still blame the heater manufacturer somehow afterwards because of a certain mental lacking No matter how much you explain, it will not help. They actually do live amongst us.

 

[konfab]

Please show me where somebody wrote "Kill the Boer" in blood....

We all know the outcome of this question..... But why not...

That song was used to incite murder.

Related:

The convicted murderer of a Vryheid farmer told the Truth and Reconciliation Commission in Pietermaritzburg on Thursday that his crime was influenced by the "kill the Boer, kill the farmer" slogan he heard at African National Congress rallies. Ntuthuko Chuene, 28, is serving a life sentence for the murder of Godfrey Frederick Lanz Heuer on August 22, 1992. He also stole a Rossi Special firearm, ammunition and a suitcase containing about R1000 in cash, a pocket calculator and books. He said he stole the guns to defend his community from the Inkatha Freedom Party. Chuene said his accomplice in the killing, Piet Nkosi, was later shot and killed by the police. He said he was forced by circumstances in the area where he lived, Mondlo, to commit the crimes. The killing was not directed at Heuer, as he just happened to be a white farmer at the wrong time. "I could have killed any other white man I came across at that time. My frustrations were directed to white men because they had what we did not have," Chuene said. "I am sorry, I look back now and regret." Heuer's wife Amy said she did not believe Chuene killed her husband because of politically motivated reasons. "I do not want him to be granted amnesty. I watched my husband die in front of me and could not help him," she said

https://www.justice.gov.za/trc/media/1999/9910/p991014a.htm

 

[Tim_vb]

South Africa has the highest farm murder rate on the planet. This is large scale killing of farmers. It doesn't matter how you frame it it(genocide, rural crime, multiple asteroid strikes etc etc) white farmers are being killed whole scale and not just killed, they are brutally tortured and butchered. Often times nothing is taken. Smashing a little child's head in with a spade while she is cowering in fear in her room is not "normal crime" it is a serious problem. Burning a farmer's house down because he managed to get away, is a problem. Writing "Kill The Boer" in blood on the walls is problem.

He denies there is a problem. Stop falling for this smooth talking, manipulative gaslighter.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1045157965030817792

Still waiting for you back up the "highest murder rate on the planet". What is the rate compared to Palestinian farmers in Gaza? higher than spaza shop owners in SA? higher than uber drivers in SA?, higher than pizza delivery drivers in US? Higher than opposition journalists in Russia?

Its very easy to make exaggerated claims when you A) ignore baseline rates and b) cherrypick data

 

[ForceFate]

Well...that settles it then. As long as we all can make our own deductions and analyze what others are alluding too, we will never need any factual statements ever again.

Can all the reeeeeeing about Trump statements/comments then stop please.

It's clear as day. Stats are publicly available.

 

[Solarion]

Still waiting for you back up the "highest murder rate on the planet". What is the rate compared to Palestinian farmers in Gaza? higher than spaza shop owners in SA? higher than uber drivers in SA?, higher than pizza delivery drivers in US? Higher than opposition journalists in Russia?

Its very easy to make exaggerated claims when you A) ignore baseline rates and b) cherrypick data

Cool. You run with that. Have a nice day.

 

[Sideshow Bob]

Cool. You run with that. Have a nice day.

You still running with white genocide or is it now only restricted to white persecution ? I haven't checked recent posts but it will be nice to know.

 

[skimread]

You still running with white genocide or is it now only restricted to white persecution ? I haven't checked recent posts but it will be nice to know.

Farm murders is the only crime that is incited and romanticized by politicians

 

[skimread]

Anyone got a news24 subscription

I would like to read this:

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www.news24.com

It seems the term whiteness has become a new slur.
Also used in this opinion piece recently by a gov official.

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iol.co.za

 

[ponder]

Do you have any verifiable source besides a link to an unknown wordpress website?

Farm attacks: Views differ on link to ‘Kill the boer’ song | The Citizen

Connection between the 'Kill the boer' song and farm attacks raises debates among experts. Some claim influence, while others disagree.

www.citizen.co.za

All google searches seem to point to dead links of Afrikaans news sites, nothing really in the English media.

I also cannot find the case in the SAFLII database.
"The public prosecutor in this case is Advocate Sophie Giorgi, the defence counsellors are Advocate Jan Nkhahle and Mr. Lawrence Chabalala (sp?). Judge Hancke is assisted on the Bench by two Assessors,: Mr P Haasbroek and Mrs B Smal. Sentencing of the convicted gardener is expected shortly at the Welkom High Court."

There's a reference to it in a ConCourt case, https://collections.concourt.org.za/bitstream/handle/20.500.12144/3608/First Amicus Curiae Supplementary Heads of Argument-15400.pdf?sequence=24&isAllowed=y

When Archbishop Tutu said the Truth and Reconciliation Commission had failed205
(perhaps because it was a ‘get the big fish’ vengeance commission, instead of a
rainbow perspectives revolution of forgiveness consciousness commission?); was he
referring to acts like that of Joseph Hlongwane, 22, when he brutally tortured and
murdered his employers Alice, 76 and Helen, 57 Lotter, and the English media censored
the incomprehensibly brutal murder and trial?206

EDIT: The ANC were protesting outside the court during the trial singing kill the boer, something else I came across.

 

[Calkem]

Farm attacks: Views differ on link to ‘Kill the boer’ song | The Citizen

Connection between the 'Kill the boer' song and farm attacks raises debates among experts. Some claim influence, while others disagree.

www.citizen.co.za

All google searches seem to point to dead links of Afrikaans news sites, nothing really in the English media.

I also cannot find the case in the SAFLII database.
"The public prosecutor in this case is Advocate Sophie Giorgi, the defence counsellors are Advocate Jan Nkhahle and Mr. Lawrence Chabalala (sp?). Judge Hancke is assisted on the Bench by two Assessors,: Mr P Haasbroek and Mrs B Smal. Sentencing of the convicted gardener is expected shortly at the Welkom High Court."

There's a reference to it in a ConCourt case, https://collections.concourt.org.za/bitstream/handle/20.500.12144/3608/First Amicus Curiae Supplementary Heads of Argument-15400.pdf?sequence=24&isAllowed=y



EDIT: The ANC were protesting outside the court during the trial singing kill the boer, something else I came across.

So we can agree that there is no verifiable source?

It's Suidlanders levels of fiction, e.g there is no such a thing such as the "Welkom High Court" in which this supposed trial went underway only the Bloemfontein High court.

 

[Calkem]

So you are saying it's all BS?

The double murder did happen. The Bloemfontein High Court does sit in Welkom fyi just like the Cape High Court sits in George for example.

The case is mentioned in ConCourt proceedings, they would have had to provide a reference for that like in all court proceedings or are you of the belief the advocates just faked it?

It sounds like fiction to me. I am yet still to see any verifiable evidence, and you have failed to show any evidence of such as well.

What is in dispute is not a murder, an assault or theft or whatever.......we disputing that "Kill the Boer" was written on the walls in blood in a brutal murder. The fact that there was a double murder, does not in any way substantiate the myth that "Kill the Boer" was written on the wall, it's not proof, do you understand? It's moot.

And let me correct you on the finer points, the Western Cape High Court has its seat in Cape Town, and not George, it has a division sitting (not seated) in George. Every Journo knows that High Courts has divisions and would say the Bloemfontein High Court sitting in Welkom, not the "Welkom High Court".

Lol, you can not state that it is referenced in papers filed in a the ConCourt case is proof that it happened. The judgement a quo is the proof, the case referenced for its legal stare decisis effect, not establishing truth, it was not an appeal, citation is not proof, the material cited is proof.

That's how the Suidlanders propaganda machine works. It offers a waffer thin veneer of truth e.g

1. Double Murder
2. Case Law in a Concourt case

And states that is proof that "Kill the Boer" was written on the wall in blood in the murder, pure conjecture...... Don't fall for it, don't be naive.

Sharpen up.

 

[ponder]

Just deleted the wrong post.

 

[ponder]

And let me correct you on the finer points, the Western Cape High Court has its seat in Cape Town, and not George, it has a division sitting (not seated) in George.

I did say 'sitting', even lawyers use the term in conversation.

Every Journo knows that High Courts has divisions and would say the Bloemfontein High Court sitting in Welkom, not the "Welkom High Court".

Erm, google "Welkom High Court" and see for yourself.

 

[Mephisto_Helix]

The dominee won't ever take your evidence, he likes to pretend it's all lies and get all up in his religious feefee's instead

 

[NoStepOnSnek88]

Don't fall for it, don't be naive.

Sharpen up.

OK sure, hyena kidnapper....

 

[Calkem]

I did say 'sitting', even lawyers use the term in conversation.

No, you said it "sits". George does not sits/sit/seats/seated George is a sitting of the WC court regardless of the tense. The WC high court sits in Cape Town.

Thats the fine minutiae.

Erm, google "Welkom High Court" and see for yourself.

As I told you initially there is nothing such as Welkom High Court, or a sitting of the Bloemfontein High Court in Welkom.

 

[ponder]

No, you said it "sits". George does not sits/sit/seats/seated George is a sitting of the WC court regardless of the tense. The WC high court sits in Cape Town.

Thats the fine minutiae.



As I told you initially there is nothing such as Welkom High Court, or a sitting of the Bloemfontein High Court in Welkom.

Erm see the highlighted text, "Every Journo knows", a google search will tell you otherwise?

Why so smug?