how to become a marriage officer in south africa?

LazyLion

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Hi Gary
Do you know anyone in Cape Town that will marry me for free? Looking for a civil ceremony, but everyone I've contacted charges around R2000.

Kirsty, Marriage Officers by law are not allowed to charge for their services, so any Marriage Officer should do a basic legal service for you for free if you are willing to travel to him and do it in his time. The problem is when they have to travel and do additional services then those additional services (sermon preparation, document fees, etc.) incur a cost. But I do offer the basic service and the filing of documents for free (here in Gauteng).

You should contact your local Home Affairs and ask them for some numbers of Marriage Officers around your area.
Home Affairs themselves will also do the service for you for free (not sure what the waiting list is like).
You can also call all the churches in your area and ask those marriage officers who will do it for you for free.

BTW, if any marriage officer tries to charge you a fee to do a basic legal only marriage, then you should report that guy to your local home affairs department. He is not supposed to be charging for that.
 
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Dcn Des

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Hi Gary
I am writing the marriage offiecers exam in two weeks time, I have received the manual, but was wondering what sort of questions are asked in the exam?
Rgds
 

LazyLion

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Hi Gary
I am writing the marriage offiecers exam in two weeks time, I have received the manual, but was wondering what sort of questions are asked in the exam?
Rgds

Howzit, beware the Exam is basically a repetition of the entire manual, and you have to score more than eighty percent to pass.
Each question basically asks you to write out the corresponding paragraph from the manual.
You really need to know your stuff well going in there.
I just memorised the entire manual by reading it over and over and over.
 

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What are the requirements to become a commissioner of oaths?

Certain People are designated as Commissioners of Oaths by virtue of their office.
That is through the legislation governing each particular office.

A commissioner of oaths is entitled to administer an oath and is the person before whom members of the public must sign an affidavit.

The following persons are among those who are qualified to act as commissioners of oaths for as long as they occupy the following positions:

An advocate;
An attorney or chartered accountant;
The manager of a branch of a bank;
The principal, headmaster or headmistress of a school;
A South African National Defence Force officer of the rank of captain or adjutant of a unit or higher;
The medical superintendent, secretary, matron or nursing sister of a government-subsidised hospital;
The manager and superintendent of a private hospital;
Any assistant manager or other official of higher rank or the legal adviser of a registered insurance company;
The secretary, assistant secretary and designated agent of a registered bargaining councils;
A member of parliament (mp);
Any person appointed to act as a marriage officer;
An organiser in the full-time employment of a registered political party;
Certain post office employees;
All members of the police service, including temporary members and members of the police reserve when on duty;
All members of the Department of Correctional Services of the rank of sergeant or higher; and
The rector, vice-rector, chancellor, vice-chancellor, deputy vice-chancellor, principal, vice-principal, accountant, registrar, deputy registrar, assistant registrar, director, deputy director and faculty secretary of a university.

Only the more commonly encountered commissioners of oaths have been listed here - there are many other office-bearers, especially government officials, who are commissioners of oaths. Before administering an oath, a commissioner will ask you whether you:

Know and understand the contents of the declaration (the affidavit);
Object to taking the prescribed oath;
Consider the prescribed oath to be binding on your conscience.

If you acknowledge that you know and understand the declaration and inform the commissioner that you have no objection to taking the oath and that you consider the oath to be binding on your conscience, the commissioner will ask you to say: I swear that the contents of this declaration are true, so help me God'.

If you acknowledge that you know and understand the contents of the declaration, but object to taking the oath, or if you inform the commissioner that you do not consider the oath to be binding on your conscience, the commissioner must instead administer an affirmation by asking you to say: I truly affirm that the contents of this declaration are true'. You will then be required to sign the declaration in the presence of the commissioner. A deponent (the person taking the oath) who cannot write must make a mark (such as a cross) at the foot of the declaration in the presence of the commissioner. Then the commissioner must certify (below the signature or mark) that the deponent has acknowledged knowing and understanding the contents of the declaration. The commissioner must also state the manner, place and date of making of the oath or affirmation. Thereafter the commissioner signs the declaration and prints his or her full name, business address and designation (for example, 'Attorney of the Supreme Court of South Africa').

Commissioners may not charge a fee for administering an oath or affirmation or for signing a declaration, and may not administer an oath or affirmation relating to a matter in which they have an interest.
http://www.legalcity.net/Index.cfm?fuseaction=RIGHTS.article&ArticleID=2124481

Justice of the Peace and Commissioner of Oaths Act
A major influence on the administration of oaths in South Africa came from the Justices of the Peace and Commissioner of Oaths Act, passed in 1963. The act also affected the appointment of justices of the peace.

History

Since its inception, the act has been amended at least 11 times, with the most recent stemming from the Judicial Matters Amendment Act of 1999. The act's original purpose was to consolidate and amend existing laws relative to the appointment, powers and duties of justices of the peace and commissioners of oaths.
Effects

According to the act, the Department of Justice appoints both justices of the peace and commissioners of oaths. A justice of the peace's primary responsibility involves keeping peace and order through the power of the courts, while a commissioner of oath's primary responsibility involves administering an oath to or receiving a legal declaration from a specific person.
Exceptions

The act also stipulates that a person may become a justice of the peace or a commissioner of oaths without being appointed by the Department of Justice. Such a qualification is termed "ex officio," or by means of a position already held. For example, the act lists professional accountants in South Africa as ex officio commissioners of oaths.
http://www.ehow.com/facts_6943814_justice-peace-commissioner-oaths-act.html
 

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@ Garyvdh
We got married in April and got charge almost R3000 by Dion Black from www.wedlock.co.za
Me and my wife both work abroad and planning on relocating. It seems that, since we told Dion Black this, he didn't bother to register our marriage at Dept of Home Affairs as it has been three months and DoHA doesn't have any record or documentation. Dion Black did hand in marriage that he presided over in April and June about a week ago only, but ours wasn't among it....
Dion Black is also not replying to our emails and doesn't take our calls. We went to his residence and found it vacant....
Any advise on how we can proceed to have Dion Black removed as a marriage officer/facilitator and to spare other couples the same trouble would be highly appreciated....
Will a fraud case against him be worthwhile?
 

howsthings

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Hi Gary
I am writing the marriage offiecers exam in two weeks time, I have received the manual, but was wondering what sort of questions are asked in the exam?
Rgds

Hi Dcn Des, Have you become a marriage officer?

I'm looking for an Atheist non-opinionated Marriage Officer in Cape Town to for September 2014.

Garyvdh, do you know of someone?

rgds
 

LazyLion

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Hi Dcn Des, Have you become a marriage officer?

I'm looking for an Atheist non-opinionated Marriage Officer in Cape Town to for September 2014.

Garyvdh, do you know of someone?

rgds

I don't know of anyone offhand. You can do some Googling and phoning around. Most marriage officers will offer some sort of non religious ceremony or know of someone who does. Also contact home affairs and ask them for a list of marriage officers.
 

howsthings

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Home Affairs themselves will also do the service for you for free (not sure what the waiting list is like).
Hi Garyvdh,

Would a Home Affairs marriage officer travel? The venue is only a couple of city blocks from the Department of Home Affairs - but the date will be a public holiday... When you say Home Affairs will do the service - what do you mean by service? That word sound laden with dogma. Is it simply going through the required procedures and statements?

I wonder if they will be homophobic? Because it will be a civil union between two men.

Then on another note - I was reading the act with the civil unions amendment - and in there they differentiate between a civil marriage and a civil union, but it seemed very unclear what the difference was.. do you know?
 

LazyLion

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Would a Home Affairs marriage officer travel?

Some Marriage Officers will travel (for a fee obviously). But it's kinda pointless when you should be able to find one close to you. I mean why import one at the price of a plane ticket, when you should be able to find one close to you.

The venue is only a couple of city blocks from the Department of Home Affairs - but the date will be a public holiday... When you say Home Affairs will do the service - what do you mean by service? That word sound laden with dogma. Is it simply going through the required procedures and statements?

By "service" I mean the legal procedures, filling out of forms and all that necessary stuff. It is a short procedure consisting of asking you two questions, taking copies of your ID books, and then proncouncing you married, and then submitting the forms so that they can be entered onto the population register. There should not be any charge for that. No marriage officer is allowed to charge you for that legal part alone, only if he incurs other expenses, travel, time, ceremony preparation, etc.

I wonder if they will be homophobic? Because it will be a civil union between two men.

Aaaah, OK that changes things then. There is a difference between marriage officers who were appointed under the old marriage act, and Civil union officers who were appointed under the new act. The old officers can only perform a civil union if they have applied to the Department of Home Affairs for that appointment. There is an extra exam they have to take (memorising the new act). You can contact the department of Home Affairs for a list of the Civil Union Officers available in your area. There should also be one appointed at your nearest department of Home Affairs. And no, they are not permitted to be Homophobic. You can complaing to the national department of Home Affairs if you encounter any discrimination.

Then on another note - I was reading the act with the civil unions amendment - and in there they differentiate between a civil marriage and a civil union, but it seemed very unclear what the difference was.. do you know?

Yes, there is a difference, see above. It all has to do with the old legislation coming out in 1961 and the new legislation in 2007.
The Marriage Act of 1961 governs heterosexual marriage and the old type of marriage officers.
The Civil Union act of 2007 governs civil unions and has their own new officers appointed to manage such.

The reason for that is that the new civil union officers had to study a new set of legislation in order to perform civil unions.

Not all "marriage officers" are permitted to perform civil unions, they have to have been granted that permission by the department.
 

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Hi Garyvdh, thank you for your input i.r.t marriage officers as I have picked up quite a bit going through the threads, I have been ordained into the ministry (Team Impact University) and would want to apply to become a marriage officer, plz advise if you are able to pdf the marriage officers manual to my e-mail address, I would like to have a glimpse of what to expect, it would be greatly appreciated, God Bless
 

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Hi Garyvdh, thank you for your input i.r.t marriage officers as I have picked up quite a bit going through the threads, I have been ordained into the ministry (Team Impact University) and would want to apply to become a marriage officer, plz advise if you are able to pdf the marriage officers manual to my e-mail address, I would like to have a glimpse of what to expect, it would be greatly appreciated, God Bless

Yes I have been meaning to do it. Somebody else actually asked me on here as well. Haven't had time yet but I will get to it. My book was from 2002 though so a lot of it is out of date but it will give you some idea.
 

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Hi,
I came across this post in my desperate search to becoming a marriage officer.
I've have tried all avenues. I went to home affairs and they said I should contact a specific person. She said (as you mentioned) that I need to get the church that I belong to, to give me a recommendation letter. The minister supplied me with a letter of reference, but they need the church to apply on my behalf but my minister said he could not help me but gave me contact details for someone who should be able to. I've gone from one person to the next without any success. The last person I spoke to said she can't apply for me since I'm not a registered minister.

Any advice as to what else I could try? :crying:
 

LazyLion

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Hi,
I came across this post in my desperate search to becoming a marriage officer.
I've have tried all avenues. I went to home affairs and they said I should contact a specific person. She said (as you mentioned) that I need to get the church that I belong to, to give me a recommendation letter. The minister supplied me with a letter of reference, but they need the church to apply on my behalf but my minister said he could not help me but gave me contact details for someone who should be able to. I've gone from one person to the next without any success. The last person I spoke to said she can't apply for me since I'm not a registered minister.

Any advice as to what else I could try? :crying:

Which organisations do you belong to?
 

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Hi,

Does anyone know how long it takes to become a marriage officer/get your results once you have written the test? Hoping our minister hears soon, but it has been months already.
 

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Hi,

Does anyone know how long it takes to become a marriage officer/get your results once you have written the test? Hoping our minister hears soon, but it has been months already.

Shouldn't take more than 3 months I would say. I can't remember mine taking that long.
 

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Hi Gary - do you know whether an attorney can apply to be a marriage officer in order to offer this service to their clients - would the attorney have to apply to the High Court for approval to apply - in the absence of a recommendation letter from a church / religious organisation?
 

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Hi Gary - do you know whether an attorney can apply to be a marriage officer in order to offer this service to their clients - would the attorney have to apply to the High Court for approval to apply - in the absence of a recommendation letter from a church / religious organisation?
Good question. I'm also keen to hear.
 
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